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Delete-B votes by Presbytery: 2001-2 and 2009

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last update 6/9/09 by Bruce Hahne, hahne at io.com

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This spreadsheet is available via http://yeson08b.blogspot.com

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June 9, 2009: voting is now complete. Final presbytery vote tallies are immediately below, with "popular vote" percentages

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towards the bottom of this spreadsheet. The total of all presbytery votes is 172 rather than 173 because Midwest Hanmi

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presbytery didn't vote. A non-vote doesn't count as a "no", it's just a non-vote.

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The "popular vote" vote percentage, which counts the number of people who voted "yes" and "no", was 48.8% yes, 51.2% no.

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Congratulations to More Light Presbyterians and all LGBT equality supporters for a job well done -- the 08-B vote results demonstrate

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a major pro-equality shift since 2001-2, and clearly show that the PCUSA is trending towards eliminating G-6.0106b in the near future.

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This spreadsheet provides a running tally of presbytery votes on proposed overture 08-B, and compares the vote percentages

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to the percentages on the similar (but not completely identical) overture 01-A in 2001-2.

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Total 08-B presbytery votes (yes or no):172

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Total 08-B presbytery YES vote count:78

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Total 08-B NO vote count:94

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Presbytery votes required to pass or fail 08-B:87

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Number of presbyteries with pro-LGBT vote shift:121(compared to 2001-2 voting)

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Number of presbyteries with anti-LGBT vote shift:40(compared to 2001-2 voting)

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Number of presbytery no-to-yes vote flips:34(Western North Carolina, Lake Huron, East Tennessee, Cimarron, Southeastern Illinois, Charlotte, Maumee Valley, Great Rivers, Scioto Valley, Sheppards & Lapsley, Tres Rios, New Hope, Greater Atlanta, Ohio Valley, Arkansas, Yellowstone, Whitewater Valley, Transylvania, Eastminster, West Jersey, Newark, Mackinac, West Virginia, Philadelphia, Grace, Salem, Wabash Valley, Detroit, Lehigh, Western New York, Minnesota Valleys, Utah, Pacific, Missouri River Valley)4/28/09: I'm now counting Western New York as a no-to-yes flip.

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Number of presbytery yes-to-no vote flips:2(San Francisco, Sierra Blanca)

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Average pro-LGBT vote shift across all voted presbyteries, 2001/2 to 2009:6.38percent

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Number of tie votes:3(Cincinnati, Central Nebraska, Mission)

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Ties count as "no", but we'll claim a moral victory for "almost yes" :-)

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Presbytery and synod geographical maps are available at: www.pcusa.org/links

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What does a "yes" or "no" vote mean?

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A vote for 01-A in 2001-2, or for 08-B in 2009, is a vote for LGBT equality in the PCUSA.

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A vote against 01-A in 2001-2, or against 08-B in 2009, is a vote against LGBT equality in the PCUSA.

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Change in YES percent,

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2001-2 to 2009.Indicator:(Intermediate

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2001-2: 01-A-VOTING2009: 08-B VOTING>0 means a pro-LGBTPro (1) or anti (-1)computation only:

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01-A vote01-A vote01-A vote08-B vote08-B vote08-B votevote shift, <0 means anLGBT vote shift1 if vote complete,Approximate

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Presbyteryyesnopercent yesyesnopercent yesanti-LGBT vote shiftcompared to 2001-2empty if not yet voted)vote dateNotes

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AbingdonVOICE - noVOICE - no294141.4113/18/2009Listing the shift (column I) as pro-equality is speculative but seems reasonable to me due to strong 41% YES vote in 2009.

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Alaska152438.5122136.4-2.1-114/18/2009

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Albany742872.5782575.73.211

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Arkansas929648.91166464.415.5112/21/2009

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Atlantic Korean-Amer.0320.00180.00.014/18/2009

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Baltimore1065665.41063873.68.211

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Beaver-ButlerVOICE - noVOICE - no219218.613/24/2009

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Blackhawk489034.8577343.89.1112/10/2009

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Boise202050.0253442.4-7.6-114/25/2009

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Boston594258.4544256.3-2.2-113/23/2009

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Carlisle588141.7717449.07.211

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Cascades17911261.51504875.814.2113/14/2009

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Cayuga-Syracuse542172.0331273.31.3111/31/2009

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Central Florida7422524.74816422.6-2.1-11

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Central Nebraska243938.1212150.011.9113/7/2009

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Central Washington167018.675511.3-7.3-11

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Charleston-Atlantic229319.1308925.26.1113/25/2009

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CharlotteVOICE - noVOICE - no13312451.8112/14/2009

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CherokeeVOICE - noVOICE - no247923.312/24/2009

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Chicago24717059.22046974.715.5112/10/2009

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Cimarron162044.4191654.39.8112/10/2009

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Cincinnati9511345.7838350.04.3112/10/2009

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Coastal Carolina9528624.911020534.910.0113/7/2009

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Dakota1204.80?0.0-4.8-115/10/2009The report I have lists a "no" vote with no precise count.

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de Cristo705556.0594855.1-0.9-114/25/2009

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Denver1156962.51144074.011.5113/24/2009

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Des Moines694660.0523758.4-1.6-11

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Detroit10211147.91419260.512.6114/28/2009

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Donegal7711839.5638742.02.511

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East Iowa786953.1742177.924.8115/12/2009

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East TennesseeVOICE - noVOICE - no816655.111

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Eastern Korean0480.00550.00.013/4/2009

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Eastern Oklahoma408631.7495646.714.911

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Eastern Oregon171454.822678.623.7112/21/2009

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Eastern Virginia709841.7728047.45.711

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Eastminster546545.4603960.615.2113/10/2009

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Elizabeth806854.1915363.29.1113/24/2009

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Flint River207122.0274736.514.5112/8/2009

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Florida426638.9414647.18.211

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Foothills4113223.7349925.61.911

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Genesee Valley986261.3932479.518.2113/28/2009

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Geneva653565.0442960.3-4.7-113/24/2009

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Giddings-Lovejoy11510652.01255370.218.2112/21/2009

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Glacier112134.472820.0-14.4-112/17/2009

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Grace10915441.420318252.711.3113/28/2009Corrected vote - originally reported as 202-183

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Grand Canyon1229656.0989351.3-4.7-113/21/2009

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Great Rivers9910847.8857453.55.6112/18/2009

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Greater Atlanta23528345.424323351.15.7112/21/2009

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Hanmi0700.01303.23.2113/13/2009

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Heartland15013951.91279058.56.6113/7/2009

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Holston227422.9246826.13.2113/7/2009

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Homestead466242.6374048.15.5112/21/2009

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Hudson River1032878.6941288.710.1112/24/2009

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Huntingdon266229.5263641.912.4111/31/2009

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Indian Nations525250.0384346.9-3.1-112/27/2009Biased voting process - no discussion was held; presbytery went directly to a vote.

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Inland Northwest2211216.4447636.720.2112/14/2009

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James13019040.612519239.4-1.2-112/21/2009

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John Calvin167617.4335537.520.1113/7/2009

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John Knox666251.6391375.023.4112/21/2009

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Kendall82226.761825.0-1.7-112/28/2009

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Kiskiminetas357631.5347630.9-0.6-115/12/20095/13/09: corrected 08-B vote count

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Lackawanna264934.7304042.98.211

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Lake Erie376536.3325835.6-0.7-112/21/2009

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Lake Huron426439.6433257.317.7112/3/2009

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Lake Michigan925960.9944269.18.2113/10/2009

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Lehigh506244.6604656.612.0114/28/2009

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Long Island872875.7782972.9-2.8-113/31/2009

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Los Ranchos5315925.03514319.7-5.3-11

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Mackinac253939.1443257.918.8113/21/2009Conflicted data about whether 2001 vote was voice or counted. I'll stick with the counted report of "25 yes / 39 no in 2001" for the moment.

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Maumee Valley517042.1655852.810.7112/17/2009

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Memphis / Mid-South599937.3316731.6-5.7-112/14/2009

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Miami Valley (Ohio)865361.9724860.0-1.9-112/14/2009

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Mid-Kentucky1136364.2901982.618.4112/21/2009

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Middle Tennessee9511844.69513940.6-4.0-115/7/2009

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Midwest Hanmi0440.0won't votewon't votewon't vote5/19/2009: Office of General Assembly has confirmed that Midwest Hanmi does not plan to vote on 08-B.

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Milwaukee683566.0862478.212.2112/24/2009

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Minnesota Valleys446042.3443754.312.0115/2/2009

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Mission16423541.118118150.08.9113/7/2009

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Mississippi95514.12493.9-10.1-11

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Missouri River Valley656848.9504154.96.1115/19/2009

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Missouri Union344642.5314839.2-3.3-112/26/2009

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Monmouth684759.1724163.74.611

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Muskingum Valley5111730.4447038.68.2113/14/2009

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National Capital22011665.522210268.53.0114/21/2009

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Nevada204132.8135918.1-14.7-113/10/2009

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New Brunswick1135069.3954468.3-1.0-113/10/2009

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New Castle655554.2824863.18.911

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New Covenant12021435.911917141.05.1112/7/2009

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New HarmonyVOICE - noVOICE - no209916.812/28/2009

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New Hope15315949.017713956.07.0112/21/2009

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New York City613166.3762575.28.9113/28/2009

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Newark344045.942884.038.1113/21/2009

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Newton (NJ)823470.7631679.79.111

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NoroesteVOICE - noVOICE - no74114.6115/16/2009First-hand information from a presbytery member indicates that initial vote reports sent to OGA and other sources were incorrect. The correct vote count is 7 yes, 41 no, 1 abstaining. This is very likely a pro-equality shift, so I'll mark it that way in the pro/anti equality shift column. However the actual percentage shift from 2001-2 is unknown due to the prior voice vote.

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North AlabamaVOICE - noVOICE - no304838.5112/21/2009Listing the shift (column I) as pro-equality is speculative but seems reasonable to me due to strong 38.5% YES vote in 2009.

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North Central Iowa466541.4316034.1-7.4-113/3/2009

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North Puget Sound397334.8426937.83.0112/28/2009

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Northeast Georgia4410130.3498935.55.2112/28/2009

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Northern Kansas734959.8712375.515.711

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Northern New England754065.2563065.1-0.1-113/14/2009

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Northern New York421968.9VOICE - yesVOICE - yes13/31/2009

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Northern Plains355140.7213338.9-1.8-114/25/2009

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Northern Waters413057.7531182.825.1115/7/2009

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Northumberland285135.4205825.6-9.8-113/21/2009

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Ohio Valley749045.1574456.411.3112/21/2009

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Olympia3211022.5449831.08.5113/19/2009

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Pacific9910049.71009052.62.9115/12/2009

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Palisades593364.1352063.6-0.5-11

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Palo Duro366436.0294738.22.211

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Peace River3710526.1638243.417.4112/26/2009

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Peaks7716631.77413635.23.6112/7/2009

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Philadelphia17622144.315213952.27.9113/28/2009

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Pines314540.8343648.67.8112/14/2009

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Pittsburgh13727733.110520633.80.7113/13/2009

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Plains & Peaks609139.7416040.60.9112/7/2009

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Prospect Hill246227.9126316.0-11.9-112/7/2009

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Providence386337.6394844.87.2113/11/2009

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Pueblo237723.0275433.310.3112/11/2009

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Redstone338528.0467538.010.1113/21/2009

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Redwoods1024967.51022878.510.9112/7/2009

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Riverside189416.1425344.228.1113/10/2009

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Sacramento6910938.8657546.47.7112/21/2009

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Saint Andrew118611.3305037.526.2112/4/2009

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Saint Augustine6610538.6687547.69.0112/14/2009

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Salem16018746.115614951.15.0114/21/2009

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San Diego3710226.6177418.7-7.9-11

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San Fernando359127.8227422.9-4.9-11

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San Francisco21618653.716717748.5-5.2-114/21/2009

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San Gabriel9718134.97913636.71.9113/10/2009

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San Joaquin3793.78749.86.111

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San Jose857553.1848150.9-2.2-114/4/2009

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San JuanVOICE - noVOICE - noVOICE? - noVOICE? - no13/11/2009

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Santa Barbara3910127.9208519.0-8.8-111/31/2009

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Santa Fe1084272.01102382.710.7112/21/2009

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Savannah205427.0293843.316.3115/13/2009

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Scioto Valley10310549.51158856.77.1112/17/2009

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Seattle10918836.79115537.00.3113/17/2009

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Shenandoah7714634.58211242.37.7112/14/2009

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ShenangoVOICE - noVOICE - no41013.812/25/2009Vote has been misreported elsewhere as 4-191. Stated clerk has confirmed 4-101. Vote did not use secret ballot -- was taken by having voters stand up to have their vote counted.

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Sheppards & Lapsley5910935.1777550.715.5112/19/2009

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Sierra Blanca181751.4233043.4-8.0-114/25/2009

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SuroesteVOICE - noVOICE - no0410.015/31/2009

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South Alabama184926.9243342.115.2112/28/2009

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South Dakota226625.0324840.015.0113/7/2009

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South Louisiana517141.8425543.31.5114/4/2009

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Southeastern Illinois697747.3685654.87.6112/12/2009

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Southern Kansas429430.9356933.72.8111/31/2009

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Southern New England1097260.2975066.05.8115/2/2009

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Stockton144424.1113922.0-2.1-11

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Susquehanna Valley432761.4592372.010.5113/28/2009

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Tampa Bay6314230.77110540.39.6112/28/2009

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Transylvania508337.6836157.620.0113/10/2009

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Tres Rios175423.9373452.128.2112/20/2009

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Trinity4211426.94810631.24.2113/7/2009

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Tropical Florida5511632.2219318.4-13.7-112/21/2009

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Twin Cities19711263.81385471.98.1113/14/2009

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Upper Ohio Valley188018.4127214.3-4.1-11

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Utah213239.6282552.813.2115/9/2009

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Utica24875.0VOICE - yesVOICE - yes1Originally reported as 70 yes, 3 no. Stated clerk has confirmed voice vote, so removing 2009 vote numbers.

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Wabash Valley8310244.9786056.511.7114/21/2009

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Washington278224.8297029.34.511

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West Jersey808349.1888052.43.3113/17/2009

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Western Colorado63315.4112332.417.0112/18/2009

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Western Kentucky165223.5174228.85.311

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Western New YorkNO ACTIONNO ACTION664857.9113/28/2009"No action" in 2001-2 is equivalent to "no", so Western NY is actually a no-to-yes flip. 4/28/09: I'm now listing this as a no-to-yes flip.

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Western North Carolina10016537.714410857.119.4111/31/2009

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Western Reserve1317364.21074271.87.6113/23/2009

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West Virginia9211444.7935662.417.8113/21/2009

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Whitewater Valley9515038.810810650.511.7113/7/2009

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Winnebago502071.4552073.31.9112/7/2009

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WyomingVOICE - noVOICE - no183832.112/8/2009

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Yellowstone293743.9252352.18.1113/2/2009

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Yukon124023.1174228.85.7112/28/2009

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01-A vote01-A vote01-A vote08-B vote08-B vote08-B voteChange in percent,Pro or

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Presbyteryyesnopercent yesyesnopercent yes2001-2 to 2009anti-LGBT shift

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Human vote totals, counting only those presbyteries which have voted so far in 2009:

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01-A vote01-A vote01-A vote08-B vote08-B vote08-B voteChange in percent,

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yesnopercent yesyesnopercent yes2001-2 to 2009

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102541334143.5104161091448.85.4

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(May 8, 2009: "late voting competitive disadvantage" section removed since those computations were specific to the March-April timeframe.)

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