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08-18-097:00 PMweb20classroom#edchat Starting now...Join the conversation....

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08-18-097:01 PMweb20classroomWe have already looked at effective tech integration, so now lets look at objectives of those programs #edchat

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08-18-097:01 PMweb20classroomTonights Topic: What objectives are necessary for effective tech integration? #edchat

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08-18-097:02 PMweb20classroomDoes anyone want to share what makes a great objective? #edchat

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08-18-097:04 PMrjwassinkObviously? the most important objective of anything ed-related is creating a "better" learning experience for the student? #edchat

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08-18-097:05 PMrjwassink#edchat (could I be any more vague?)

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08-18-097:05 PMTeacherRadioI will join the #edchat tonight a little... I have work to do also to get ready for Teacher Talk Radio tom: http://tinyurl.com/ls3364

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08-18-097:05 PMweb20classroom@fisher1000 How about "What makes a great Technology Objective?" #edchat

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08-18-097:06 PMkellyhines#edchat I think a great tech objective is one that acts as a catalyst for extended understanding of core content

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08-18-097:06 PMweb20classroom@rjwassink What constitutes a better learning experience? #edchat

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08-18-097:07 PMweb20classroom@kellyhines So the combination of a tech skill that applies to core content? #edchat

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08-18-097:07 PMDigin4edHow about increases understanding and enhances understanding as well as longer memory? #edchat

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08-18-097:07 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom First and foremost objective would be the capacity/infrastructure for technology infusion #edchat

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08-18-097:07 PMJustlikemary#edchat Objective 1: integrate tech into curriculum so teachers can stop wondering how they will find time to add tech into classroom

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08-18-097:08 PMrjwassinklearning experiences that allow students to do something that they are interested in while still following the classroom topics? #edchat

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08-18-097:08 PMjmiscavishI'm getting real-time #edchat results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ put your username in second column!

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08-18-097:08 PMGiftedTeechur#edchat Objective 1.5 (then add technology to the TEST!)

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08-18-097:08 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom Second would be how that tech use helps to improve/motivate/sustain deep understanding and learning #edchat

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08-18-097:09 PMfisher1000@web20classroom I hope you're going to blog about this. What a great conversation! #edchat

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08-18-097:09 PMfarroutlinks#edchat when helping teachers write objectives I ask them to think about their language and encourage use of Bloom Tool http://ow.ly/kvsu

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08-18-097:09 PMfisher1000@web20classroom I forgot the hashtag! SORRY! #edchat

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08-18-097:09 PMjdeyenberg#edchat I agree with @kellyhines - the integration of technology with core content is a key objective to create meaningful learning

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08-18-097:09 PMjmiscavish#edchat

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08-18-097:09 PMweb20classroomAhh good point! RT @mbteach: @web20classroom an objective would also be to include all stakeholders in the in the process. #edchat

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08-18-097:10 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom @mbtech A SMART objective would also be measureable and time-based. #edchat

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08-18-097:10 PMweb20classroom@rjwassink You make a great point...interest is important! #edchat

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08-18-097:10 PMGiftedTeechur#edchat - unless it is "forced" into curriculum I don't see how we can get everyone on board~we have a lot of "soon retirees" that won't

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08-18-097:10 PMkellyhines#edchat It should also demonstrate a skill that can be transfered across curriculum areas to all components of learning

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08-18-097:10 PMjmiscavishCheck out my TweetGrid! http://is.gd/2npT8 #edchat put your username in second column

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08-18-097:11 PMmrsbrowndog@kellyhines AGREED! #edchat

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08-18-097:11 PMmbteachMy thoughts on technology planning: http://bit.ly/9tM3z

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08-18-097:11 PMweb20classroomWhat verbs are important in objectives? #edchat

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08-18-097:11 PMjdeyenberg#edchat - I think a great tech objective views students as active participants, not passive learners

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08-18-097:12 PMGiftedTeechur#edchat blooms verbs

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08-18-097:12 PMjmiscavishI think you need to look at integrating technology into curriculum, not adding tech objectives #edchat

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08-18-097:12 PMmbteach@GiftedTeechur you're right, we'll never force people-slowly building buy-in is the best way in my opinion. Grassroots. #edchat

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08-18-097:12 PMweb20classroom@mrsbrowndog Mesureable....good point...there has to be a distinct outcome.... #edchat

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08-18-097:12 PMrjwassink@GiftedTeechur Everyone can use ed tech at some level, though - even a classroom website would work for some of the luddites. #edchat

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08-18-097:13 PMGiftedTeechur@jmiscavish #edchat touche... very generic

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08-18-097:13 PMrjwassink.@web20classroom @mrsbrowndog measurable how? another standardized test? #edchat

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08-18-097:13 PMjmiscavish@GiftedTeechur those are NOT good verbs. Nobody actually knows what 'synthesize' means...ugh #edchat

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08-18-097:13 PMGiftedTeechur@rjwassink #edchat oh I agree~ but there are some who fear email

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08-18-097:14 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom I'm all about the data lately...@datadiva would be proud of me! #edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMkellyhines#edchat The verb choice comes back to SMART goals (see @e_shep's post http://tinyurl.com/n6d2rm): measurable!

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08-18-097:14 PMweb20classroom@rjwassink @mrsbrowndog No way! But there has to be a clear outcome...What should students be able to do at the end...#edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMjmiscavish@GiftedTeechur something more concrete and simple. Easier to understand for all involved. #edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMShiftParadigm@barbaratreacy Am surprised report was largely silent on the on-line approach to PD and PLCs. http://bit.ly/19p6k5 #edchat #edreform

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08-18-097:14 PMfisher1000@web20classroom This might help: http://www.byrdseed.com/differentiator/ #edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMmbteachThink about how we all learned 2 write objec.: audience, how it's measured, the standard for success & the task to be completed. #edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMaforgravePerhaps it is important that the technology enhances/adds value to an existing objective of value #edchat

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08-18-097:14 PMDigin4edtech is tool to support higher objectives. #edchat

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08-18-097:15 PMweb20classroomI like this! RT @fisher1000: This might help: http://www.byrdseed.com/differentiator/ #edchat

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08-18-097:15 PMGiftedTeechur#edchat verb to be used: "Google".. because it is also a verb

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08-18-097:15 PMmbteach@aforgrave agreed. Show teachers/admins how technology makes their job easier & they'll buy it #edchat

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08-18-097:15 PMjmiscavish@aforgrave yes, that. Why pile on additional objectives when so many already exist? #edchat

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08-18-097:16 PMweb20classroomSo if measurable is the verb of choice, how do we acomplish that without adding a mandated test? #edchat

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08-18-097:16 PMGiftedTeechur#edchat would an objective be to teach students how to use a search engine efficiently & effectively

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08-18-097:16 PMjsuzcamposI just taught this workshop today! What verbs are important in objectives? #edchat RT @web20classrom

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08-18-097:16 PMGISELLEMSANTOS@jmiscavish integrating is the key word, we have to remember that we are teaching, not necessarily teaching technology.#edchat

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08-18-097:16 PMrjwassink.@mbteach good point. 10 years ago there was 1 way to write, today there are multiple methods for different audiences #edchat

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08-18-097:16 PMaforgraveIf learning how to learn is the "big picture" objective, knowing when and how to augment learning with the correct tech is important #edchat

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08-18-097:17 PMrjwassinkWhat if a student submits a handwritten paper 2x as good as the best typed one? Pencils and pens are still viable options sometimes? #edchat

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08-18-097:17 PMjmiscavish@GISELLEMSANTOS I wouldn't mind teaching tech if they told me to, but I've got a billion ELA objectives... #edchat

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08-18-097:17 PMmbteach@aforgrave correct tech is important. Not all tech is good & and not all tech supports learning #edchat

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08-18-097:17 PMkellyhines@jmiscavish #edchat So you are saying we should keep content objectives but measure them w/ assessments that include technology?

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08-18-097:17 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom Tech use has to enhance learning & provide students with means to differentiate their demonstration of learning IMHO #edchat

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08-18-097:18 PMtomwhitbyI am sorr y that I am late for #edchat My wife is out and I am in charge. A rare moment in my house

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08-18-097:19 PMmbteachStudents will create a glog of the life cycle of a butterfly with 75% accuracy in a 45 minute period...#edchat -sample objective-

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08-18-097:19 PMjmiscavishCheck out my #edchat TweetGrid! http://is.gd/2npT8

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08-18-097:19 PMjmiscavish@rjwassink Could they not take the really good handwritten paper and type it, then? #edchat

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08-18-097:19 PMDigin4ed@rjwassink pen and paper are tech too #edchat

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08-18-097:19 PMjmiscavish#edchat

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08-18-097:19 PMkellyhines@GiftedTeechur #edchat I would want that obj to include using source evaluation, credibility, etc. to determine an effective search

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08-18-097:19 PMjmiscavish@kellyhines Something like that. #edchat

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08-18-097:20 PMblairteachJoined late; think I caught up on the conversation. I wish we could get to the place that tech is an invisible tool for learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:20 PMrjwassink@jmiscavish would it make it any better? It depends on the audience I guess. Encouraging good handwriting skills still important? #edchat

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08-18-097:20 PMShellTerrellSorry late to the conversation #edchat

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08-18-097:21 PMjmiscavish@mbteach until glogster goes under...why 45 min period? Is glogster really that important for them to know? #edchat

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08-18-097:21 PMaforgraveThinking, defining the proper questions, choosing and using tech to augment thinking, making critical decisions, correct action ... #edchat

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08-18-097:21 PMShellTerrell@GiftedTeechur I think this search engines should be covered which entails research skills #edchat

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08-18-097:21 PMtomwhitby@rjwassink your term typed as opposed to word processing indicates a lack of understanding the research on word processing #edchat

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08-18-097:21 PMweb20classroom@mbteach I like that...tech is not the focus....but included...and there is a clear outcome...simple, straightforward #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMcmt1One objective is helping many of my colleagues understand that they are still bracing for a tech future that has already arrived #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMweb20classroom@blairteach Ah....interesting....invisible tool...still used but used like a book or pencil...no second thoughts... #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMblairteachWe don't write obj. for using paper & pencil for learning. Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMDigin4edpersonal view, we teach students to survive a& thrive in the world they inherit. They need to experience and know how to use tech. #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMesolcoursesSorry I'm joining late; will try to keep up! :-) #edchat

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08-18-097:22 PMAmerHistTeachExc. pt @ jdeyenberg #edchat I agree w/ @kellyhines - integration of tech with core content is a key objective to create meaningful learn

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08-18-097:22 PMjmiscavish@rjwassink goodness gracious no. The only time I actually write is on the board and rarely at that. #edchat

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08-18-097:23 PMesolcoursesRT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:23 PMkellyhines@blairteach #edchat But at one point (and many places still do) focused on handwriting as a skill/obj. Isn't that comparable?

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08-18-097:23 PMmbteach@jmiscavish being selfish-I teach 45min periods & Glogster just happens to be a tool I've been using tonight :) #edchat

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08-18-097:23 PMaforgraveWRT butterfly glog -- several things there -- research/data collection, selection elements to present, organization, graphical preso #edchat

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08-18-097:23 PMShellTerrellHave we touched on citation of online sources & copyright? I believe @web20classroom posted gr8 sites earlier in wk #edchat

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08-18-097:23 PMkellyhines#edchat @mbteach I would even offer 3 choices of tools to demo that understanding of life cycle (ie VT or photostory or Glogster)

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08-18-097:24 PMweb20classroomRT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:24 PMShellTerrell@aforgrave Elements of presentation important as collaboration on presentations! both skills necessary for business jobs #edchat

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08-18-097:24 PMfeedtheteacher@blairteach what do our students understand as technology? tools we think of highly technological for them are just tools.#edchat

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08-18-097:24 PMweb20classroomSo then the objective should include options? Different ways to show understanding? #edchat

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08-18-097:24 PMjmiscavishRT @blairteach: We don't write obj 4 paper & pencil lrning-Tech tools should support learning, not B the purpose of learning #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMaforgrave.@blairteach WRT (! :-) ) handwriting was the ONLY form of individual non-verbal communication. Neat, legible, conventions important #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMjmiscavish@web20classroom and have whole curriculum focus on tech so it's not redundant in every objective #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMrjwassink@web20classroom maybe the student can think of a alternative way of presenting their learning? Why tie them down? #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMmbteachABCD objectives are what I'm used to. Audience, Behavior, Conditions, Degree (range of accuracy) #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMjmiscavish@web20classroom why not just create visual representation of butterfly life cycle? #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMtomwhitby@rjwassink not to worry it is a common mistake but it underscores the problem ppl are hung up on the process and not learning #edchat

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08-18-097:25 PMDigin4edIf we don't teach them, they learn elsewhere. #edchat

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08-18-097:26 PMweb20classroomTHATS IT! RT @jmiscavish: and have whole curriculum focus on tech so it's not redundant in every objective #edchat

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08-18-097:26 PMShellTerrellUsed to these as wellRT @mbteach: ABCD objectives are what I'm used to. Audience, Behavior, Conditions, Degree #edchat

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08-18-097:26 PMmrsbrowndog@mbteach Yes, that's it! A SMART goal! #edchat Now following you! Nice to get to "meet" you and share!

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08-18-097:27 PMtomwhitby@rjwassink BTW typwriters are almost non existent they rest with rotary phones #edchat

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08-18-097:27 PMweb20classroom@jmiscavish For some students that would work...and I am not against that... #edchat

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08-18-097:27 PMblairteach@feedtheteacher Exactly my point. Focus on the learning, not the technology. Use tech that best accomplishes objectives. #edchat

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08-18-097:27 PMShellTerrell@mbteach The form of objective is also important in creating valuable assessments to measure higher order skills #edchat

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08-18-097:27 PMmbteach@web20classroom @jmiscavish @kellyhines yes, give a choice of how to complete the task/goal with tech integrated as a choice #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMblairteach@Digin4ed In most cases, (w/regard to tech) they've already learned elsewhere; we're the ones who need to learn. #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMweb20classroom@mbteach Same here.... #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMcat8canaryeek, botched that rt, but got the gist out. @fisher1000 you tweeted the link before I could. Awesome resource. #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMweb20classroom@jmiscavish However are there not students who would do better with tech? Or a song? Or a Demonstration? #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMaforgrave@tomwhitby I can both type and rotary dial with my iPhone ! #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMrjwassinkso another mandated class for students to take? Is that what we're saying? Sounds good to me! #edchat

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08-18-097:28 PMcat8canaryRT @fisher1000: @web20classroom This might help: http://www.byrdseed.com/differentiator/ #edchat (via @twazzup) http://tr.im/wEha

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08-18-097:28 PMjmiscavish@web20classroom yeah, each whole CURRICULUM needs an UNDERSTANDING of tech use, not separate tech objectives #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMfeedtheteacher@ShellTerrell couldn't agree more! #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMShellTerrellGlobalization requires collaboration w/ other country's schools a must now I believe #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMtomwhitbyWe need to change assessment goals and we will change how we teach #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMmbteach@aforgrave show off! Now I have to find that app....#edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMaforgrave@tomwhitby the continued use of QWERTY for keyboard layouts however.... Why don't we move on that? #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMDigin4edParticular tech will change and at an increasing rate. #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMCotterHUERT @web20classroom: RT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat ...

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08-18-097:29 PMjmiscavish@web20classroom it's all about balance for me anyway. Heck, I'm not touching a computer for the first two days in class...yikes! #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMTzviPittinskyRT @web20classroom: RT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMShellTerrellObjectives should focus teachers on teaching prob solv skills #edchat

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08-18-097:29 PMmbteachThis would require someone to compile resources for a district/school to allow 4 easy access to tech integration across the curric. #edchat

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08-18-097:30 PMaforgrave@mbteach The Rotary Dial app was one of the first I added -- it's on my second last springboard pg of "useless but fun" iPhone apps #edchat

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08-18-097:30 PMCotterHUESo I would think the teacher prepares a course/lesson goal, and uses tech as support and facilitate learning... #edchat

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08-18-097:30 PMweb20classroomSo true...RT @ShellTerrell: Globalization requires collaboration w/ other country's schools a must now I believe #edchat

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08-18-097:30 PMtkraz@blairteach They know their way around the technology but not necessarily a productive path. We can provide that. #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMAmerHistTeachyes, students are much more tech saavy than us RT @kellyhines yes, give a choice of how to complete task w/ tech integrat as choice #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMrjwassink@mbteach and that list would need to change all the time... and so many similar technologies... what a chore! #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMTechWallRT @web20classroom: RT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat ...

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08-18-097:31 PMTechWallRT @web20classroom: RT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMTechWallTHATS IT! RT @jmiscavish: and have whole curriculum focus on tech so it's not redundant in every objective #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMTechWallRT @esolcourses: RT@blairteach: Tech tools should support learning, not BE the purpose of learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMmbteachIt still annoys me that I have my own curriculum to follow (I'm a tech teacher) but it's in no way connected 2 the core curriculum...#edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMTechWallRT @blairteach: We don't write obj 4 paper & pencil lrning-Tech tools should support learning, not B the purpose of learning #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMShellTerrellStdts should be prob solv energy crisis, health care crisis on ICTs #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMzbpipeI'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMjaimebarclayRT @Digin4ed: If we don't teach them, they learn elsewhere. #edchat ~so true! Proactive thinkin...

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08-18-097:31 PMweb20classroomAgreed! RT @tomwhitby: We need to change assessment goals and we will change how we teach #edchat

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08-18-097:31 PMDigin4ed@blairteach yes they are learning elsewhere without context, understanding of risks, evaluation of sources and credibility, etc #edchat

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08-18-097:32 PMjkdham#edchat @web20classroom That's basically Diff Instr. path 2 objective should always include options (st. generated) to get full pic. of kid

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08-18-097:32 PMblairteach@tomwhitby Nancy Polette used to say, "Change the product & you'll change the process." It really changes the way info is processed. #edchat

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08-18-097:32 PMtomwhitbyBloom doesnt think as much of remembering as creating.Yet we emphasize remembering.We know but do not believe. we did it so they can #edchat

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08-18-097:32 PMShellTerrellTwitter stream I'm tweeting #edchat for the hr join me or you can tune me out!

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08-18-097:32 PMcmt1Technology should become ingreasingly transparent...just like the pencil is as a tool - thoughts I read from Ian Jukes #edchat

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08-18-097:32 PMzbpipeI am late joining #edchat! What is the current "topic?"

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08-18-097:32 PMCotterHUENot the other way around - finding a cool piece of tech and working a lesson around it, or even shoehorning it into a lesson. #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMtomwhitby@philhart your endorsement will move me to critically review #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMblairteach@Digin4ed And that brings us back to filters in schools; we often don't have opportunity to assist in their learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMweb20classroom@jkdham Its all about options.... #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMirasocol@aforgrave @tomwhitby kids in Brit study hit 60 wpm in two days on mobile "thumb" keyboards - and we waste time on "typing" lessons #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMmbteachI find myself reading both the rdg & math curr. for the 7 grades I teach just to make what I do in the lab integrated! #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMweb20classroomRT @cmt1: Technology should become increasingly transparent...just like the pencil is as a tool - thoughts I read from Ian Jukes #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMShellTerrellSchools should be connected & already prob solving w/ stdts in other countries bcuz that is what companies & govts do #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMjmiscavish@zbpipe how we feel about edtech objectives #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMcedpaineRT @cmt1: Technology should become ingreasingly transparent...just like the pencil is as a tool - thoughts from Ian Jukes #edchat

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08-18-097:33 PMweb20classroomRT @cmt1: Technology should become ingreasingly transparent...just like the pencil is as a tool - thoughts I read from Ian Jukes #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMShellTerrellLack of prob solving skills in schools w/o countries has lead to no solutions for energy crisis or prob w/ comm btwn countries #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMblairteach@tkraz Blocked, blocked, blocked. Would love to provide guidance but don't have access. #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMDigin4ed@AmerHistTeach Students not as tech savy as many think, they are just comfortable in doing certain things with tech. #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMmbteach@cmt1 because a pencil was once a piece of new technology! #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom Forgot #edchat Sorry! See these: http://tinyurl.com/oatkyf and http://tinyurl.com/p35uco Same rubric used for all choices

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08-18-097:34 PMtkraz@tomwhitby But isn't a foundation of knowledge needed in order to create? Where does that foundation come from? #edchat

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08-18-097:34 PMrjwassinkmy students know YouTube, MySpace, Yahoo, and flash game sites. They don't know much about using technology for productivity #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMmbteach@rjwassink agreed. They can find MiniClip games, but they can't find out when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMmrsbrowndog@web20classroom last linx from my wiki http://curriculumcorner.wikispaces.com Differentiateing by choice thru tech #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMzbpipe@rjwassink but can they use those tools you mention for productivity, bring the curriculum to what they are comfortable with #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMCotterHUERT @cmt1: Technology should become ingreasingly transparent...just like the pencil is as a tool - thoughts I read from Ian Jukes #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMtomwhitby@CotterHUE Yes but we treat it as the end product not the means to get there #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMaforgrave.@blairteach: @tomwhitby "Change the product --> process." How can tech help kids to think/learn/do things "better" (contextual) #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMweb20classroom@rjwassink But we are trying to change that...one tiny step at a time.... #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMmbteach@Digin4ed I have lots of kids who come into my lab afraid of the computer! #edchat

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08-18-097:35 PMweb20classroom@rjwassink Because, I believe, there is a lack of emphasis on using those tools in that way in education... #edchat

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08-18-097:36 PMcmt1@mbteach Yes, the pencil was once considered a new tech that would destroy new generations by wiping out traditional chalk slates #edchat

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08-18-097:36 PMDigin4ed@blairteach we need to recognized risks & liabilities schools face, then have practices to address risks and teach kids to do so 2. #edchat

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08-18-097:36 PMShellTerrell@Digin4ed and @AmerhistTeach Definitely stdts can text but can they efficiently collaborate or complete proj w/ Smart Phone #edchat

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08-18-097:36 PMquirkytechRT @farroutlinks: #edchat when helping tchrs write objectives ...think about their lang and encourage use of Bloom Tool http://ow.ly/kvsu

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08-18-097:37 PMweb20classroomRT @cedpaine: @mbteach It's true - a lot of kids are still, in fact, tech shy. Tech shy adults can't help them. #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMCotterHUE#edchat @tomwhitby I agree that tech is a means to reach goal. But some may feel pressured to adopt tech. Some may want to use something new

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08-18-097:37 PMShellTerrellContinual prob w/ schools! RT @blairteach: @tkraz Blocked, blocked, blocked. Would luv to provide guidance but don't have access #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMzbpipeIt is ingrained that we start with objectives, big idea. Currently our curriculum doesn't support tech initiatives in ON #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMmbteachHas anyone mentioned the NETS Standards? They provide guidance in higher-level uses of tech! #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMShiftParadigmIs on-line learning as an awkward adolescent? http://bit.ly/1a3QbC #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMaforgrave@irasocol WRT typing -- Agreed. Self-taught. Kids can learn this on their own (software or other method) #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMcat8canaryalmost caught up on #edchat - has anyone mentioned tech + accommodating learning styles?

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08-18-097:37 PMcedpaine@mbteach It's true - a lot of kids are still, in fact, tech shy. Tech shy adults can't help them. #edchat

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08-18-097:37 PMblairteach@zbpipe Topic: What Objectives are Necessary for Effective Tech Integration? #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMShellTerrell@jkdham I'm in Germ & have collaborate thru Twitter on several proj w/others across world including Edchat #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMzbpipeHow many of your districts use ISTE to guide tech integration? Many US standards have ISTE mandated #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMDigin4ed@ShellTerrell can they tell the difference in file extensions and convert them, know how to move files, configure their firewall? #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMmbteach@cat8canary a bit. We've talked about providing choice in completing assignments. #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMbwassonRR @cmt1: Technology should become increasingly transparent, just like the pencil is as a tool... #edchat [This has been my driving force]

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08-18-097:38 PMrjwassinkI teach a technology class that's supposed to be "shop". Only class we have for computer tech is "keyboarding" in middle school #edchat

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08-18-097:38 PMweb20classroom@cat8canary AH...no...what do you think? #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMzbpipeWe need to start with infrastructure, get internet into the classrooms. #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMCotterHUE#edchat @tomwhitby people adopt things at different rates (looks like a bell curve when graphed) and for different reasons.

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08-18-097:39 PMfeedtheteacherstudents have been mere spectators for 2 long. They need the chance 2 participate actively, sharing , collaborating and creating #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMesolcourses@Digin4ed @AmerHistTeach can depend on subject. I teach esl/literacy to teens/adults. My students don't tend 2 be tech-savvy at all. #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMShellTerrellRT @jkdham: @ShellTerrell that is why Twitter is so gr8! I love getting perspective from educators fr Ontario & beyond. #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMweb20classroom@zbpipe How do you change them to include the tech? #edchat

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08-18-097:39 PMzbpipe@rjwassink really, keyboarding is still taught? #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMDigin4edAdministrators and school boards are risk averse, so have to get them to document risks, then we must address risks, to get access. #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMcat8canary@web20classroom #edchat tech can help achieve objectives for a variety of LS - games for kinesthetics, text for read/write, audio, etc.

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08-18-097:40 PMblairteachThe problem still remains that many tchrs still believe using an LCD projector and PPT means they are "using" technology w/students. #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMweb20classroom@zbpipe We do to some extent but buy is a problem... #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMaforgrave@zbpipe Agreed. Tech Objectives would create argument for tech spending. But it can be used to support existing expectations. :-) #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMrjwassink@ShellTerrell @blairtech @tkraz CIPA act almost forced schools to do this with NCLB. All depends on state/district interpretation #edchat

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08-18-097:40 PMRoderickSilva@rjwassink Awesome point. In Tech class kids need to learn the tools that will make them better in their other classes. #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMesolcoursesRT @blairteach <snip> Many tchrs still believe using an LCD projector and PPT means they are "using" technology w/students. #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMcmt1@zbpipe I'm suprised how many parents are concerned with focused keyboarding time at school #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMweb20classroomCheck out...Do we still need keyboarding and check out why teachers think we do... http://is.gd/2nrQ0 #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMrjwassink@zbpipe that's all we offer... sad, eh? I have an elective class that I have tech-saavy fun with, but not my core classes #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMDigin4ed@kellyhines I'm like that all the time. lol #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMShellTerrell@rjwassink Hope its not just typing drills for comp class, which was all I got in school #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMWorldclass52The challenge in my high school is how to make the cell phone texting a positive

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08-18-097:41 PMblairteachWe still have a GIANT learning curve to face with tchrs/admin on effective integration of tech w/learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMaforgrave@blairteach Well ... LCD and PPT -- they ARE technology! #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMcedpaine@zbpipe The Massachusetts tech integration guidelines are based on ISTE's #edchat

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08-18-097:41 PMzbpipe@web20classroom do we need to add tech objectives, we don't have "pencil" objectives...and yet once, the pencil was a new technology #edchat

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08-18-097:42 PMweb20classroom@blairteach So what are we doing to change that perception? #edchat

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08-18-097:42 PMcmt1RT @blairteach We still have a GIANT learning curve to face with tchrs/admin on effective integration of tech w/learning. #edchat

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08-18-097:42 PMShellTerrell@blairteach Doesnt help much if stdts don't get to use LCD or create dynamic presentations byond PPt #edchat

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08-18-097:42 PMzbpipePerhaps what we are doing is just what should be doing, educating each other on how to use tech as a tool,not seperate,no more lab. #edchat

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08-18-097:42 PMcat8canary@mbteach thanks - will look that up! I try to include various tech in my lesson plans for each style, give students options. #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMmbteach@cedpaine Philly uses NETS, but r tech curric is terrible. I tried to start initiat. to change, but ppl up high who made it resist #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMcat8canaryRT @feedtheteacher: students have been spectators for 2 long. They need chance 2 participate... sharing, collaborating and creating #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMtomwhitby@CotterHUE are we now going into differentiation. Tech is helpful there too.I agree that there are diff rates of learning #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMjkdham#edchat @mbteach In Ontario, our curr. is integrated (www.edu.gov.on.ca) We don't separate out the tech expectations, they are built in.

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08-18-097:43 PMzbpipe@cmt1 focused keyboarding....just like some are still teaching spelling as a separate subject...embed it! #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMJustlikemaryRT @Justlikemary: @ShellTerrell my 3 year old niece can weild my iPhone. I have no doubts about stds using smart phones for projects.#edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMDigin4ed@blairteach They are using tech, old tech, problem is they are probably just dumping content, not getting understanding, it's easier #edchat

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08-18-097:43 PMrjwassink@ShellTerrell "Type to Learn" is what the teacher uses. 10 minutes every day for 10 weeks, some Word and PPT thrown in, too #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMcedpaineEasy, reliable access to hardware/Internet is a real key. Teachers/students have been too often frustrated. #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMjswiatekRT @feedtheteacher: students have been spectators for 2 long. They need chance 2 participate... sharing, collaborating and creating #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMweb20classroom@mbteach And I think that is the problem lots of places....the high ups.... #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMfeedtheteacher@blairteach agree, and sometimes when they do have such tools in their hands they use them to lecture and again sts just watch #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMzbpipe@jkdham the objectives are built in, but still widely focused on web 1.0 - #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMjmiscavishCheck out my #edchat TweetGrid! http://is.gd/2nrXX

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08-18-097:44 PMrjwassink@aforgrave used correctly they are just as effective as any other tool. It all depends on the assignment #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMShellTerrell@Justlikemary Thats amazing! My niece texts endless, makes vids, etc on her SmartPhone.. constantly amazes me how fast she is #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMmsjweir@zbpipe I think we (tech lovers) need 2 help others see the potential of how 2 include it in lessons so don't see it as an add-on. #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMaforgraveOver a decade ago, I lobbied locally for in-class computers, "We don't wait until Thursday to go to the pencil room." Success! #edchat

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08-18-097:44 PMblairteach@aforgrave Yes, they are tech, but, in isolation, do little to increase student achievement; just new device to show old info. #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMCotterHUELast year uni prof gave students alternative of creating a wikipedia page for term paper. Clear objectives worked into assignment. #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMweb20classroom@Digin4ed The perception that using a projector and a power point is "using tech" #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMShellTerrellWe didn't have obj for pen & pencil but if no tech obj wouldn't some tchrs use tech to babysit stds? #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMiMrsFJumping in late - is there a theme or specific question being addressed tonight? #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMmbteach@jkdham that's it. I'm moving to Canada. Been hearing great things from you all about edtech! #edchat

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08-18-097:45 PMmsjweirRT @ShellTerrell: Doesnt help much if stdts don't get to use LCD or create dynamic presentations byond PPt #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMShellTerrellTech obj need to be in place to prevent tchrs fr just putting on ed game for stdt all day & thinking this is integration #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMackygirlRT @feedtheteacher: students have been spectators for 2 long. They need chance 2 participate... sharing, collaborating and creating #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMtonnetInteresting conversation is happening around #edchat. Do not miss it - http://3.ly/YZM

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08-18-097:46 PMweb20classroomI want to see more of the collaboration tools and creation tools used...because that is their future...#edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMJustlikemary@msjweir #edchat I think ur right. But only tech lovers are on Twitter and such. We have to bring tech out to others.

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08-18-097:46 PMblairteach@esolcourses There are a lot of expensive whiteboards/projector screens in classrooms; interactive capabilities often ignored. #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMaforgrave@blairteach WRT LCD/PPT -- also IWB today. Agreed. Potentially a fancy blackboard. #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMweb20classroomFor some using the very basics is all they will do and think they are changing the world... #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMDigin4ed@courosa I got them to, are we a new market for porn now? How's their spelling? #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMmbteach@web20classroom they wrote the curriculum, & then here I come bashing it and asking to help revise--what did I expect? #edchat

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08-18-097:46 PMjkdham@zbpipe #edchat our new math curriculum should be out next year, they may support more tech initiatives there.

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08-18-097:47 PMteach1st@cedpaine At my school, teachers are frustrated with network speed and uptime, as well as with lack of machine maintenance. #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell they already use worksheets as babysitters--thank you copy machine! #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMiMrsFSpeaking of ppt - we had a guy present to faculty today re:our new Smartboard (1!) &all he did was treat it like fancy board.Ugh. #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMrjwassink@ShellTerrell hate how sum tchrs use the internet as reward - "do your work, you can go on the Internet and play". makes my job hard #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMTwilliamson15@web20classroom in a word: no...we need kids who can type conversationally...that can be accomplished through focused chatting, etc #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMmrsbrowndog@mbtech as well as the ISTE standards #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMzbpipe@jkdham it is the collaborative learning, project based initiatives that we should be seeing, not focused on tech skills. #edchat

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08-18-097:47 PMmbteachWhat about students (like mine) w/out home computers/fancy cell phones? There needs to be a diff set of obj for them #edchat

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08-18-097:48 PMblairteach@ShellTerrell You're right. Some still believe we can't let the students touch the expensive equipment; they might break it. #edchat

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08-18-097:48 PMJustlikemary@mbteach I agree. I tch dropouts. What do u suggest? #edchat

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08-18-097:48 PMcat8canary@zbpipe awesome point! Web2.0 is a more constructivist model #edchat

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08-18-097:48 PMaforgrave@Justlikemary @msjweir preaching to the converted ... ;-) #edchat

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08-18-097:48 PMDigin4edIt is tech, but the question is..is it effective? In most instances, not for understanding. process problem, tech problem #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMtomwhitby@blairteach 20yrs ago wer use to joke about Tchrs using Computers for hatracks. Now many use Smartboards the same way #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMcmt1@web20classroom Many of the collaboration tools are blocked in school districts. Must educate district admin #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMblairteach@kellyhines It's often not the lack of training, but the lack of FOLLOW-UP to the trng to assist w/implementation. #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMrlmoraiAgreed. Shouldn't use tech for tech sake. But use as a transformative tool. Interactive. Problems like... new wine in old bottles. #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMzbpipewe sometimes forget that tech is much more than computer - universal designed schools should be focus #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMweb20classroom@Twilliamson15 I completely agree! #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMrjwassink@mbteach same objectives for learning, just a different tool. Not everyone has access to power saws and cordless drills #edchat

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08-18-097:49 PMiMrsFI can't help but think that the biggest benefit from tech is socializing/independence in learning. *That and access to info* #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMCotterHUE#edchat Are teachers overworked? We talk about teachers MUST successfully use tech... But little time to prepare, experiment, & assesss?

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08-18-097:50 PMtonnetRT @rjwassink: @ShellTerrell hate how sum tchrs use the internet as reward - "do ur work, u can go on the Internet & play"...#edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMcat8canary@mbteach the digital divide affects online students more keenly than classroom students, perhaps? #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMJustlikemary@teach1st teachers are frustrated by lack of time. Transition into tech shouldn't seem so overwhelming. #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMfeedtheteacher@web20classroom i whatever is new comes accompanied by fear.Experimenting the new doesn't mean the death of old practices #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMjkdham#edchat @web20classroom @zbpipe In Ont, we can't change expectations (only IEP's) we can use many diff. paths to get our kids to reach them.

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08-18-097:50 PMrjwassink@teach1st in this day and age that's almost ridiculous - unless you're 200 miles from nowhere and using satellite uplinks #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMLinda704@iMrsF how about inTerdependence of learning, too? #edchat

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08-18-097:50 PMteach1stIf we can get past material difficulties, we help others by modeling and more modeling. #edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMtonnetMany of the collaboration tools are blocked in school districts. Must educate district admin #edchat via @cmt1

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08-18-097:51 PMShiftParadigmIs it about making texting positive? or making it an essential part of learning and teaching? #edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMCotterHUE#edchat in japan teachers are definitely expected to do too much and carry too much responsibility.

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08-18-097:51 PMShellTerrellSo true! RT @tonnet: hate how sum tchrs use the internet as reward - "do ur work, u can go on the Internet & play"...#edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMaforgrave@zbpipe tech is a solution to many challenges -- our traditional model is based on "sameness" (for students and via teachers) #edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMweb20classroomSo true! RT @cmt1: Many of the collaboration tools are blocked in school districts. Must educate district admin #edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMiMrsF@Linda704 I would think that would be included in the social part on the other side of the slash...? #edchat

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08-18-097:51 PMDigin4edMaybe we should back spam the spammers with lessons to do. #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMTwilliamson15@web20classroom with the amount of comp. work I have my students doing I consider myself a supplemental keyboarding teacher #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMashleyproudRT @web20classroom: So true! RT @cmt1: Many of the collaboration tools are blocked in school districts. Must educate district admin #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMmbteach@cat8canary the opposite! My students are classroom students who rarely get online outside of school #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMjkdham#edchat RT @aforgrave: @blairteach Well LCD & PPT they R tech! #edchat but they are not interactive tech. but kids are looking, not doing

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08-18-097:52 PMcmt1@tomwhitby I've seen IWB's used as regular whiteboards to print out long URL addresses for students to copy and type into computers #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMcat8canary@cotterhue are these skills any less expected in the private sector? :-) #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMweb20classroom@tonnet Oh I hate that! I cring, then educate when I hear that! #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMShellTerrell@blairteach Although I've read about lowincome schools giving notebooks w/o theft or breaking issues #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMrlmoraitrue. any ideas on how to educate admin on importance of tech tools?! @cmt1 #edchat

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08-18-097:52 PMmbteach@Justlikemary First assess students' profic. & slowly build skills. They pick up new tools pretty quickly when assigned a project. #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMzbpipe@aforgrave fortunately, "DI" pedagogies is opening the path to try innovative methods,if system is encouraging DI, then we go for it #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMcedpaine@tonnet I think a lot of teachers have no idea about the vast edtech resources that are available online #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMcmt1@rlmorai Tell admin, Show admin, Involve admin in technology integration #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMaforgrave@blairteach: @kellyhines -- or simply flawed implementation. Sucessful Implementation: one of the greatest challenges in education #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell that issue always comes down to the adults--are they holding students accountable for the equipment? #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMkmckean1Instead of dissing teachers who aren't comfortable w/tech, look for teachable moments with them. Teaching > Sneering. #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMLinda704@iMrsF Yes! So we would have socializing/interdependence/independence in learning #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMrjwassinkSchols who don't specifically address online collaboration are "in violation" of CIPA unless they block them http://bit.ly/kxmqy #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMShellTerrell@blairteach @msjweir I was nervous to let my kindergarteners use my Mac but they were fine only few times touched the screen! LOL #edchat

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08-18-097:53 PMTeacherRadio@CotterHUE #edchat I totally agree about the overworked statement... I love teaching, but feel too many strings pulled in diff direction

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08-18-097:53 PMwifemommeRT @Justlikemary: @ShellTerrell my 3 year old niece can weild my iPhone. I have no doubts about stds using smart phones for projects.#edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMcat8canary@mbteach good point - but we can control their tech supplies in class, but not so much online? #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMjkdham@cmt1: @zbpipe I'm suprised how many parents r concerned w focused keyboarding time @school #edchat b/c that's what they learned at school

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08-18-097:54 PMtomwhitbyI am always upset when teachers give the same old writing projects and are surprised when students retrieve ans from the internet #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMTeacherRadio#edchat I teach my kindergarten students specific skills once a week... how to log in, how to open a program, how to operate program...

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08-18-097:54 PMmsjweir@kellyhines I agree . I think it makes sense to have tchrs give pd to other tchrs of how to use tech in lessons. #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell @blairteach I spend the first week teaching kids how to put on/take off headphones, push in chairs, etc... #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMesolcourses@mbteach @ShellTerrell feel there need to be some objectives. Also think there needs to be some degree of flexibility built in. #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMsuper_shaun@feedtheteacher If ur students havn´t been participating actively, sharing , collaborating and creating #edchat.! Then change ur job.

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08-18-097:54 PMblairteach@msjweir Believe me when I say you are in the minority. I visit LOTS of classrooms across the nation & rarely see your attitude. #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMweb20classroom@Twilliamson15 And that is more important is that they are learning a more valuable skills than keyboarding... #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMShellTerrell@mbteach Good point about workshts at least comp don't damage environmt as much #edchat

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08-18-097:54 PMShellTerrell@mbteach Good point about workshts at least comp don't damage environmt as much #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMrjwassink@ShellTerrell unless you think of the thousands of computers that are wasting electricity every day "just for games" in schools #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMblairteach@ShellTerrell I didn't mean students WOULD break stuff; just that some tchrs still act like they are protecting equipment. #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMiMrsF@msjweir @kellyhines I've been thinking that all year! Why do we pay outsiders to tch when often they don't tch anymore-outoftouch! #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMmbteachRT @kmckean1: Instead of dissing teachers who aren't comfortable w/tech, look for teachable moments with them. Teaching > Sneering. #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMShellTerrellTchrs can make Cheap IWB by using Johnny Chung Lee steps http://bit.ly/LhKs2 My current proj #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMcedpaine...and social media in education are still suffering from a very bad reputation. We need to work to dispell that. #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMCotterHUE#edchat @cat8canary I think the skills are being pushed from mgmnt. Private sector is business. Must be competitive/diff from competition.

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08-18-097:55 PMweb20classroom@cedpaine @tonnet And that it is why it is up to us to introduce things like Twitter and Nings to them to discover resources...#edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMaforgrave@jkdham well -- it could just as easily be a kid up there, presenting their project, talking about a piece of writing, sharing a pic #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMmbteachI'm in the middle of negotiating w/ my district to unblock Glogster EDU. It's blocked as a social networking site. #edchat

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08-18-097:55 PMJustlikemary@mbteach right just bcuz low income stds don't have access to latest tech at home doesn't mean they can't pick it up quick in class #edchat

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08-18-097:56 PMweb20classroomWhy do districts block more than what is required by CIPA? Is it because of the students or the teachers? #edchat

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08-18-097:56 PMmsjweir@blairteach I'm happy, yet sad at that statement. I hope that my positive tech attitude is making a diff in my school. #edchat

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08-18-097:56 PMweb20classroom@mbteach Why are any social networking sites blocked...you know what I am saying? #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMJustlikemaryit'd be valuable to get the stds in on the conversation. Wouldn't they have imprtnt lessons for US about their edtech objctvs? #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMLinda704@iMrsF I think collaboration *adds* richness...you can socialize/learn w/ someone w/o necessarily collaborating #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMmbteach@cedpaine YES! Social networking needs a makeover! There's way too much fear there. #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMcat8canary@CotterHUE True, but we are also fighting for relevance in a rapidly changing world. We must evolve or go the way of newspapers. #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMzbpipewe want our students to use web 2.0/blog- etc.,but very few teachers model it, how many teachers in your school write daily in blogs #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMaforgrave@zbpipe How is student-specific IEP-designated hardware deployed in your neck of the woods? #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMShellTerrell@esolcourses @mbteach definitely flexibility & assess if tchrs integrating tech effectively perhaps walkthrus #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMiMrsF@web20classroom Idk - I think it's appropriate to block Facebook and Myspace. SO distracting & serves NO academic purpose. #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMtomwhitbyRather than blame astudent for retreiving a lame answer, change the project to something original #edchat

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08-18-097:57 PMkellyhines@iMrsF @msjweir #edchat That's why we started doing Make-n-Takes at our school & they are great http://tinyurl.com/q4n9s3

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08-18-097:58 PMrjwassink@web20classroom very good point. The teachers are horrible offenders of our AUP - even more so than the worst-behaved students #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMweb20classroom@mrsbrowndog Exactly....you can't do these things on a whim...It take work and research before hand... #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMDigin4ed@web20classroom Is the problem in deciding what to block? easier and less risk in blocking everything. #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell you're making one! #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMLinda704Holy interactive teachers! #edchat is flying and hard to keep up w/all the great ideas & sharing!

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08-18-097:58 PMCotterHUE@TeacherRadio I feel too many strings too. BTW just followed you. Looking forward to your Tweets. #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMmrsbrowndogRT @cmt1 RT @web20classroom Many of the collaboration tools R blocked in school districts. Must educate district admin #edchat =MUST DO HMWK

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08-18-097:58 PMShellTerrell@rjwassink This is a good point plus I've heard of waste due to continuous upgrades; comp trash goes to 3rd world countries, etc #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMweb20classroom@iMrsF Myspace...yea....but there are those that see a use in Facebook because it is what the students know so embrace it.. #edchat

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08-18-097:58 PMjkdham@zbpipe: Perhaps what we r doing is just what should, educating each other on how 2 use tech as tool not separate no more lab. #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMJustlikemary@iMrsF I've an idea for an academic/social site for stds to build their own curriculum #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMShiftParadigmWhat about double loop learning? Are you using tech to make that essential aspect more common place in your classroom and school? #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMjkdham@web20classroom: @blairteach #edchat start with 1 tchr and move onto the next, just like the old shampoo commercial. she told 2 friends...

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08-18-097:59 PMmbteachWhat's funny about #edchat is we're all preaching to the choir--how do we draw the 'others' in? #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMcedpaineHow many teachers are using social media for their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMShellTerrell@blairteach Probably some tchrs feel they are responsible if anything happens to equipmnt which means measures need to be in place #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMfeedtheteacher@tomwhitby teachers sometimes fear handing the power to students, they fear losing control of the class #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMsuper_shaun#edchat what is flawed is teachers not finding out and learning about their learners and by this dictating the rules of how to learn.

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08-18-097:59 PMiMrsF@web20classroom I disagree w/that logic. Kids like to watch nasty reality shows too, doesnt mean I show them in class. (Ditto cells) #edchat

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08-18-097:59 PMzbpipeDo any of you have classroom examples of your podcasts that I can showcase at AT4all conference? #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMiMrsF@Justlikemary Like wiki or Ning or something different? #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMweb20classroomRT @kellyhines: RT @mbteach: What's funny about #edchat is we're all preaching to the choir--how do we draw the 'others' in? #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMmsjweir@mbteach I try to run pd sessions at my school about tech ideas. Maybe that's a way to draw others in? #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMLinda704Saw comment in #edchat abt tools being blocked and need to educate admin. Here, here! Wikis and blogs (not edublog) are blocked. :(

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08-18-098:00 PMcat8canary@imrsf I think you make a good point - are all tools necessarily adaptable to education? Can/should they be? Hmmm. #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMirasocol@mbteach @aforgrave I think we need to expose kids to the variety of text entry systems - so they can choose #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMweb20classroom@iMrsF And neither would I...I am saying embrace what the students are already using and use it for teaching and learning #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMShellTerrell@tonnet Dont worry I come late as well :( Poor @web20classroom on his own for 20 min! #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell @blairteach have the kids sign an AUP. My kids can't touch a computer until they do. #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMteach1stAnother obstacle is high-stakes testing. Teachers feel that unless they're drilling, they're not helping students to be test ready. #edchat

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08-18-098:00 PMkellyhinesRT @mbteach: What's funny about #edchat is we're all preaching to the choir--how do we draw the 'others' in? #edchat

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08-18-098:01 PMiMrsF@cat8canary I often seen ppl on twitter talking abt a zillion diff new tech sites but no objectives. Random is bad in educ, I think. #edchat

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08-18-098:01 PMtonnetTeachers feel that unless they're drilling, they're not helping students to be test ready. #edchat via @teach1st

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08-18-098:01 PMkellyhines#edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students, we need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin.

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08-18-098:01 PMweb20classroomRT @cedpaine: How many teachers are using social media for their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMJustlikemary@iMrsF smthing dffrt. I worked with novanet. Online courses. Smthng like my locker space or school book. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMmbteach@feedtheteacher and yet, when they give up some control, they actually gain more! #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMstevejmoore@kellyhines @mbteach so true about the "others"! We should all think about what we take away from Twitter into ed stewardship acts #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMLinda704Amen! @kellyhines: #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students, we need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin.

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08-18-098:02 PMcmt1Absolutely! RT @cedpaine: How many teachers are using social media for their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMGhadaLancerRT @cedpaine How many teachers are using social media for their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMjkdham#edchat @aforgrave fair enough, it could be a student using LCD or PPT to present work, but we could also stretch them with other tech too

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08-18-098:02 PMmrsbrowndogRT @mbtech (4got) #edchat Just in from Failure is Not an Option & that was the big convo...BUY IN is huge and sustainability even moreso!

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08-18-098:02 PMzbpipeIs anyone else having trouble with Tweetdeck...very slow. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMrosasayOn @talkingstory today I spoke of using hashtags well http://ow.ly/kvHT and looks like #edchat is one to watch right now if you're teaching!

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08-18-098:02 PMmbteach@rjwassink do they sign the AUP? I'm thinking of having mine do it this year. #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMDigin4edPeople respond to incentives, change the incentives to change the behavior #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMShellTerrell@mbteach @blairteach Thats part of obj to tch stds to use tech respbly but cant tch if kids blocked fr using sites they use at home #edchat

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08-18-098:02 PMcat8canary@imrsf then again, who decides if SN sites should be blocked in schools? What if someone can use them for good & not distraction? #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMcmt1@Re_SearchingEd RT@kellyhines #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students,need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin

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08-18-098:03 PMteach1st@zbpipe Tweetdeck is slow for me. #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMmbteach@jkdham EXACTLY! I'm hoping to work with ONE teacher this year & hope there's a ripple effect once others see what fun we're having #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMblairteach@cedpaine @web20classroom I talk tech at every wkshp I do, no matter the topic of the trng. I try to model use & share resources. #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMtonnetAgree! RT @Digin4ed: People respond to incentives, change the incentives to change the behavior #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMLinda704Amen! RT @kellyhines: #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students, we need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin.

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08-18-098:03 PMTwilliamson15totally agree about #edchat preaching to choir...always surprised at how small of a group we really are

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08-18-098:03 PMmisrusTo those talking about social networking sites - I would like to have students make a Facebook page for an author or historical fig #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMcat8canary@kellyhines love that term - tech-spectations! #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMShellTerrellHave stdts discuss what should be included in Codes of Conduct or AUP & include these in handling tech responsibly guidelines #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMweb20classroom@tonnet And that is a whole other problem...test ready....when are we gonna move away from those tests! #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMmsjweir@ShellTerrell I think kids respect tech especially when they know it's a teacher's personal equip. #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMiMrsF@cat8canary Some SN sites are more protected/controlled and easily adaptable for educ purposes. Should start there. #edchat

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08-18-098:03 PMRe_SearchingEdNew fave word! RT@kellyhines #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students,need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin

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08-18-098:04 PMtomwhitby@feedtheteacher I am starting to see the word fear in most arguments for tchrs not learning tech #edchat

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08-18-098:04 PMfeedtheteacherwe shouldn't try 2 adapt tools 2 fit education, if there is a natural transition the tools will b part of our lesson planning!#edchat

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08-18-098:04 PMkmckean1#edchat Policies like that get in the way of innovation.

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08-18-098:04 PMCotterHUERT @tonnet Teachers feel unless theyre drilling, not helping students to be test ready. #edchat @teach1st - real application aids retention.

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08-18-098:04 PMkmckean1#edchat Another prob: district curric pacing. I really am just slackjawed that we have gone back to everyone on same page - literally.

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08-18-098:04 PMShellTerrell@msjweir Also they know if they damage tech then its not coming back in classrm! My kindergartners luv comp #edchat

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08-18-098:04 PMiMrsF@Twilliamson15 I have had stdnts make a Facebook pg for a Macbeth character, but fake page was acceptable. #edchat

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08-18-098:04 PMweb20classroomRT @kellyhines: #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students, we need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin.

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08-18-098:04 PMtappedinorgRT @web20classroom: RT @cedpaine: How many teachers r using soc media 4 their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-098:04 PMjkdham#edchat @tomshepp exactly, that is why I don't follow those with scant profile.

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08-18-098:05 PMcmt1@mbteach The ripple effect with colleagues can be very effective #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMmisrus@feedtheteacher Agreed! Sometimes tech pd is focused on programs that are useless for teachers in particular subjects #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMJustlikemary@misrus good idea! But I see it as a possible interface for student curric options. #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMTechnologyTodayWhy are any social networking sites blocked:Because students get off task. I create my own wikis to separate personal from academic #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMShellTerrell@Twilliamson15 But we are collaborating on global means & support eachothers goal to infect change in our schools #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMjkdham#edchat @mbteach sure, come on up, @HWDSB would be lucky to have you!

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08-18-098:05 PMmbteachOr we can show them an archive of an #edchat session or have them participate in a similar disc, even if it's f2f? #edchat

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08-18-098:05 PMRe_SearchingEd@stevejmoore @kellyhines @mbteach How can advertise #edchat to non-Twitter teachers? Or even Tw-eachers themselves?

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08-18-098:05 PMweb20classroom@blairteach Again...teaching that tech is the tool...not the objective... #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMmsjweir@jkdham I try to work on my Eng dpt when we have meetings. We are pretty excited about tech in ed so it's a good start. #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMfeedtheteacher@tomwhitby teachers feel very vulnerable since they believe students can handle technology so easily #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMmbteachI did find out, BTW that Philly unblocked Nings-I started one for teachers, maybe it had an influence? #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMmbjorgensen#edchat hmmm we're having a conversation via twitter about getting teachers to adopt new technologies. Maybe we should be on MSN.

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08-18-098:06 PMLinda704@kmckean1 and then there is the whole "mile-wide-inch-deep" coverage obsession! #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMShellTerrellI learn new things thru Twitter & tech everyday & have used my knowledge so I believe we cannot think preaching to choir #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMCotterHUE.@tonnet Real relevant application moves students from rote knowledge to in/flexible knowledge. #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMgeraldaungst@kellyhines My district has teacher/admin tech-spectations (great word!), but they were already out of date when adopted in 1997. #edchat

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08-18-098:06 PMmbteach@kellyhines like the newly revised NETS for administrators! #edchat

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08-18-098:07 PMteach1st@ShellTerrell I learn at Twitter and take it back to teachers in my local network #edchat

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08-18-098:07 PMDigin4ed@kellyhines probably need dual approach. One obj for tchrs is exposure, knowledge of and trial use. #edchat

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08-18-098:07 PMzbpipem: RT @kellyhines: #edchat Maybe before we can tackle tech obj for students, we need to tackle tech-specatations for educators/admin.

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08-18-098:07 PMJustlikemaryFolks. I'm out. Gotta hlp mom (tchr) make a lesson plan template. :) #edchat

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08-18-098:07 PMzbpipe@cmt1 do teachers in your district complete an annual learning plan?Tech initiatives would be a great start,start simple:create blog #edchat

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08-18-098:07 PMajepRT @tomwhitby: @feedtheteacher I am starting to see the word fear in most arguments for tchrs not learning tech #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMtomwhitbyHow many districts still require a 5 yr plan for tech? If anything underscores a lack of understanding...? #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMtonnetRT @tomwhitby: teachers feel very vulnerable since they believe students can handle technology so easily #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMmbteach@ShellTerrell Agreed. I teach kids directly about ads, flaming, netiquette, copyright, and sites that make them feel uncomfortable #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMrjwassink@mbteach AUPs are, last I knew, required by CIPA as well. http://bit.ly/2zdcvP (Sorry for so much CIPA tonight!) #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMweb20classroom@feedtheteacher @tomwhitby And I always tell teacher...relinquish control...make mistake...be human.. #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMjkdham@aforgrave Over 10 yr ago, I lobbied locally for in-class computers, "We don't wait until Thurs. 2 go 2 pencil room." Success! #edchat :)

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08-18-098:08 PMmbjorgensen#edchat seriously though, asking people to adopt new technologies has always been about salesmanship. We have to demonstrate the users need.

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08-18-098:08 PMiMrsFTwitter may be part of the solution- show real tchrs's successful integration of tech to admin/colleagues. Some is undeniably good! #edchat

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08-18-098:08 PMblairteachRe: "prchng to choir." I've often thought of the irony of our conversations here. Yet I'm sure "we" all try to reach beyond choir. #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMfeedtheteacher@web20classroom true, some fear being exposed for not knowing, its is like asking your 16 year old for driving tips #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMmbteach@rjwassink not our teachers! I make all students in grades 4-6 sign, but I'm in the minority in the district, I'm pretty sure. #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMmisrus@crisswrites Good idea. I guess there are other unblocked pages I could use. #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMShellTerrell@teach1st Exactly! Without Twitter & PLN I wouldn't be as strong or motivated to incite change! #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMstevejmooreTwitter may be part of solution- show real tchrs's successful integration of tech to admin. Some is undeniably good! #edchat (via @iMrsF)

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08-18-098:09 PMesolcourses@TechnologyToday students "getting off task" on social networking sites is a classroom management issue, though, surely? #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMBWDaySome of us may not be talking but we're listening and learning. A lot of your information is new to me #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMDigin4edwell thanks @web20classroom for volunteering #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMkellyhines@Digin4ed #edchat I firmly believe that if teachers are using tech for their own learning they will make the connections and start building

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08-18-098:09 PMblairteachAt a schl today. Delicious available but diigo blocked. Some blogs/wikis available but other resources blocked. #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMcat8canary@CotterHUE excellent point - internal & external focus skills are also good objectives. #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMmbteach@jkdham I already know that my Twitter name stands for Manitoba Teachers! #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMCotterHUERT @feedtheteachet @tomwhitby teachers sometimes fear handing the power to students, losing control of the class #edchat - controlled chaos.

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08-18-098:09 PMShellTerrell@feedtheteacher @tomwhitby tchrs need to get away fr mindset they have to know it all, i luv when my stdts tch me how 2 use tech #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMCrissWrites@misrus Could you set up Ning community and they create profile page as historical figure? Post blogs as person, post in forums, etc #edchat

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08-18-098:09 PMLinda704@TechnologyToday And if wikis are blocked, too? #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMweb20classroom@tomwhitby NC requires one from every district....but I believe there is no accountably.... #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMLinda704Very true! RT @feedtheteacher: @tomwhitby teachers feel very vulnerable since they believe students can handle technology so easily #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMtomwhitbyEducation must be about learning and not control. #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMkellyhines@Digin4ed #edchat (2/2) similar learning experiences for their students. Until they see personal power, I don't know if they really get it.

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08-18-098:10 PMesolcourses@TechnologyToday IME, students working on paper-based tasks are just as adept at finding ways of distracting each other #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMkmckean1Look for an opportunity to teach one colleague something *they* will use (as opposed to ST you like) once a week. Feed the world. #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMShellTerrellRT @BWDay: Some of us may not be talking but we're listening and learning. A lot of your information is new to me #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMblairteach@kellyhines "Tech-spectations" -- I like it. (and agree) #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMzbpipere: ed-specatations for educators/admin - the new Ontario Leadership Framework,just released,has embedded competencies for admins #edchat

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08-18-098:10 PMjkdham@msjweir: @zbpipe we need 2 help others see potential of how 2 incl in lessons so don't see it as an add-on. #edchat can't be seen as extra

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08-18-098:11 PMLinda704RT @web20classroom: @feedtheteacher @tomwhitby And I always tell teacher...relinquish control...make mistake...be human.. #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMmisrusIs edchat limited to technology discussion? I'd like to complain to/with someone about Arne Duncan... #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMmbteachRT @cedpaine How many teachers are using social media for their own education? That should certainly be an objective. #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMiMrsFRT @kellyhines:I firmly believe that if teachers are using tech 4 their own learning they will make the connections &start building #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMLinda704RT @Digin4ed: @kellyhines probably need dual approach. One obj for tchrs is exposure, knowledge of and trial use. #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMShellTerrellWe are over 60 tchrs fr across world participating in discussions for change so we shouldn't descredit impact of this! #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMmbteach@jkdham an LCD & projector is a start. Then introduce them to Animoto or VoiceThread to show on their screens. #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMOnTeaching@feedtheteacher Why so afraid of letting students know we're learning together? Teacher is human, not diety #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMlifrocRT @tomwhitby: Education must be about learning and not control. #edchat

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08-18-098:11 PMcmt1PLN provides PD!! RT @ShellTerrell @teach1st Exactly! Without Twitter & PLN I wouldn't be as strong or motivated to incite change! #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMcfanchRT @ShellTerrell: tchrs need to get away fr mindset they have to know it all, i luv when my stdts tch me how 2 use tech #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMjkdham#edchat @msjweir just like I said she told 2 friends, and she told 2 friends and so on and so on. What was the shampoo any way?

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08-18-098:12 PMweb20classroomBefore everyone leaves...help me out by filling out this survey on objectives...summarize your thoughts for me....#edchat http://is.gd/2ntEr

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08-18-098:12 PMShellTerrellYes! RT @Linda704: ... I always tell teacher...relinquish control...make mistake...be human.. #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMiMrsFI would like to go back. Not poor choices - risky behaviors, lack of foresight. #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMOnTeaching@misrus each chat has a "topic" -- could suggest that for future chats...

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08-18-098:12 PMcmt1@zbpipe No tech plan required. See where the problem lies...no accountability #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMstevejmooreEducation must be about learning and not control. #edchat (via the wise @tomwhitby)

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08-18-098:12 PMteach1stI have to go. This was my first time participating in #edchat (shy). It won't be my last. Thanks to everybody. I love to learn.

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08-18-098:12 PMDigin4ed@kellyhines There may be other ways, but I don't think any that are as powerful and immediate. #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMiMrsF@tomwhitby An element of control is still necessary for stdnts. They are not yet adults and are prone to poor choices. #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMaleaness@mbteach I don't think all nings are unblocked. #edchat

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08-18-098:12 PMfeedtheteacher@ShellTerrell you boost your student's sense of achievement when there is active participation! #edchat

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08-18-098:13 PMkellyhines@mbjorgensen #edchat And we need the old-fashioned door-to-door, demo in your house kind of salesmanship. Not a pop up ad on a website.

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08-18-098:13 PMcmt1This is my first time participating in #edchat learning a great deal from the experts in theTwitterverse.

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08-18-098:13 PMzbpipeJust switched to Seesmic instead of tweet grid, working good #edchat

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08-18-098:13 PMmisrus@Onteaching Thanks! This is my first time. Not that I'm not enjoying this conversation! :-) #edchat

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08-18-098:13 PMShellTerrell@feedtheteacher Exactly stdts need to feel part of process just as educ need to feel part of process for infecting change in school #edchat

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08-18-098:13 PMtonnethow do we draw the 'others' in asked @kellyhines But what is #edtech? In very easy terms? #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMblairteach@feedtheteacher Wouldn't that be nice? There ARE tools that don't need adaptation, just adoption. "Natural transition" not seen. #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMTeacherRadio#edchat We need to share these relevant tech integrations with each other... these can generate other ideas that we can bring back 2 schools

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08-18-098:14 PMOnTeaching@misrus I think @coolcateacher is one of the ppl "in charge", has weekly poll about topics #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMShellTerrell@shapah I agree tech objectives & standards should support inquiry based learning thru tech #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMmisscalcul8How would you use Voicethread in math? I've seen it but not used it and know very little. #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMLinda704@blairteach It's the blocking that is my biggest frustration. I learn about great sites & tools here, and can't use @ school #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMjkdham@mbteach kids w/o tech at home don't need different objectives, just different paths to get them where you want them to go. #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMtomwhitby@iMrsF They need guidance and rules yes but their engagement in learning should ideally be the control. I did say ideally right? #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMcfanchRT @kellyhines #edchat firmly believe if teachers are using tech for their own learning they will make the connections and start building

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08-18-098:14 PMmbteach@msjweir our kids steal tchers cell phones off their desks & trash the room when their out. They need to feel that there are conseq #edchat

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08-18-098:14 PMRe_SearchingEd@esolcourses @TechnologyToday Good point; technology doesn't inherently equal engagement. The methods we use must too #edchat

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08-18-098:15 PMRe_SearchingEd@misrus Let's write the Dunc-meister and see if he'll join us on #edchat! What better way to get the gov into edtech?

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08-18-098:15 PMaforgraveRT @jkdham: #edchat @msjweir What was the shampoo any way? Faberge w/ Heather Locklear! http://bit.ly/JShWf

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08-18-098:15 PMmbteachRT @ShellTerrell: #edchat Have stdts discuss what should be included in Codes of Conduct or AUP & include these in handling tech respons ...

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08-18-098:15 PMjaneinjava@web20classroom It's all about the content - not the technology #edchat

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08-18-098:15 PMtheresagrayJumping in late - talking tech and Arne Duncan? #edchat

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08-18-098:15 PMcfanchRT @ShellTerrell: @teach1st Exactly! Without Twitter & PLN I wouldn't be as strong or motivated to incite change! #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMiMrsFI think students need tchrs to guide and nudge them into learning/trying different areas. #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMShellTerrellmost tech I learned b4 Twitter was fr my stdts... I just got over mindset "I dont know it so cant use it" I can learn, rt? #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMOnTeaching@Re_SearchingEd Haha! True! I'll sign the letter! :)

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08-18-098:16 PMweb20classroom@Linda704 @blairteach And that is when you go to every board meeting and show examples how it is being used elsewhere #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMLinda704Many tchrs so separate home/school they will only do email at school. Hard to get them to try new things when it's blocked at school #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMfeedtheteacher@OnTeaching humanizing the teacher could help us integrate technology in our classrooms. #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMaforgrave@mbteach: @msjweir They need to lock the door when they're out. #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMmbteach@jkdham true-their objectives are the same, but it takes more time to teach them how 2 use the tools. #edchat

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08-18-098:16 PMiMrsF@tomwhitby I'm not sure. If I had been in control of my own learning, there are areas I would have neglected that I find useful now. #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMtheresagray@mbteach I haven't heard them use fear as reason but can see it in how they resist. Some not all #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMJustlikemary@ShellTerrell Yay for student involvement! #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMOnTeaching@ShellTerrell Exactly! We ask our stdts to learn every day -- but we the tchrs can't be bothered to? Um, no. #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMmsjweir@aforgrave Love the ad! Great metaphor for our discussions tonight! #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMShellTerrell@pbhanney LOL! You must be tech savvy then bcuz mine arent except for kindergarteners! LOL! #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMLinda704RT @tomwhitby: Education must be about learning and not control. #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMrjwassink@misscalcul8 maybe it isn't the best tool for your class...not all tools are good for all needs #edchat I'd be interested in your responses

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08-18-098:17 PMweb20classroomAgreed! RT @janeinjava: It's all about the content - not the technology #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMiMrsFJust like if I let my own children choose what they eat, they'd eat MacNCheese and cookies all day - would be malnourished and ill! #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMcedpaineRT @ShellTerrell: @shapah I agree tech objectives & standards should support inquiry based learning thru tech #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMmbteach@ajep @tomwhitby @feedtheteacher has anyone ever heard a teacher say they fear tech or are we assuming here? #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMweb20classroom@blairteach @ @Linda704 Your force them to explain why it is blocked #edchat

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08-18-098:17 PMjkdham@aforgrave: #edchat @msjweir What was the shampoo any way? Faberge w/ Heather Locklear! http://bit.ly/JShWf thanx it was driving me nuts

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08-18-098:17 PMcfanchRT @tomwhitby: Education must be about learning and not control. #edchat So hard to release the reigns and facilitate

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08-18-098:17 PMmisrus@Re_SearchingEd Oh my. I'd have a few things to say to him. #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMOnTeaching@mbteach even though district provided all the tools we need -- every student had a laptop to use #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMaforgrave@mbteach Nah. Have heard it. Seen it. So thick in the air it was tangible. It's out there, no doubt! #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMblairteach@ShelTerrell Hope stream of good info encourages them to also explore Twitter & other tech resources. #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMweb20classroomRT @mbjorgensen: @kellyhines I agree! Handshake and a website do a whole lot more than an email and a manual. #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMShellTerrellEvery proj my stdts can choose presentation tool & how they want to present material! They continually amaze me #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMpbhanneyRT has anyone ever heard a teacher say they fear tech? #edchat I know teachers who say they don't like tech.

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08-18-098:18 PMmbteach@rjwassink they're also required for ERate grants, but no one's checking that their signed, they just have to be written! #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMOnTeaching@mbteach I worked in very tech-friendly district. coworkers didn't want to bother learning new stuff, refused to use tech #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMkmckean1Ick. I just noticed that, by participating in an #edchat, you get a lot of unwanted Mentions. Part of why twitter inapprop 4 classrm chats?

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08-18-098:18 PMblairteach@ShellTerrell I learn from Twitter everyday, too. Usually forward what I learn via email to ppl & add that I found it via Twitter. #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMmbjorgensen@kellyhines I agree! Handshake and a website do a whole lot more than an email and a manual. #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMmisrusI don't think teachers fear tech. I think they don't use it. Like asking me (LA) to incorporate a tuba into my lesson. Doesn't flow #edchat

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08-18-098:18 PMcedpaine@mbteach You can see it in their eyes! #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMOnTeaching@kmckean1 Has anyone tried Edmodo as a Twitter substitute for the classroom?

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08-18-098:19 PMkmckean1#edchat Yes, teachers have told me, "I am going to retire in a few years and I just don't want to learn how to do this stuff."

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08-18-098:19 PMLinda704@web20classroom That's a thought. Maybe with all the $$ problems, the time is ripe for the fruit of the 'net! #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMiMrsFI think many tchrs view tech as superfluous-just another cheesy buzzword. I think they will(must!) soon find how wrong they are. #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMmbteachMaybe they resist b/c no one's been patient enough to hold their hand. Teaching teachers is the hardest thing you can do! #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMtomwhitby@iMrsF I was teaching before bloom was even heard of I stumbled through without any control #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMtonnetTeachers can't deny we have very savvy students from whom we can still learn, specially tricks on technology #edchat

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08-18-098:19 PMcfanch@mbteach my fear is that most tchrs who use social media outside of class are using it for fun & connections not to learn #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMweb20classroom@Linda704 Exactly....I very rarely pass along a resources that cost money.... #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMblairteach@tomwhitby Plans I see say "tech" but have skimpy details of what it looks like; still focused on equipment, not effective use. #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMmbjorgensen#edchat Biggest challenge I see with initiating change is helping education see it isn't preparing kids for the life they will lead.

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08-18-098:20 PMrjwassink@mbteach ours need to be approved by our regional people and then signed and sent to the state every year. a pain in the butt #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMjkdhamRT @Linda704: Holy interactive teachers! #edchat is flying and hard to keep up w/all the great ideas & sharing! that's what I love bout this

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08-18-098:20 PMtheresagray@kmckean1 Funny - my parents are more tech savvy in their retirement! #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMiMrsF@tomwhitby Stdnt control or controll from higher ups? #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMRe_SearchingEdLOL! Best metapho 4 techfear!RT@misrus (tech 2 sum tchrs is) Like asking me (LA) to incorporate a tuba into my lesson. Doesn't flow #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMOnTeaching@mbteach These teachers refuse to let you hold their hand. I tried, IT tried... teachers played solitaire during training sessions #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMShiftParadigm@tomwhitby What comes before the bloom? Seed? #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMmbteach@tomwhitby if they want federal money, they need a plan every 5 years. Philly's had nothing to do w/educ, only infrastructure #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMShellTerrell@cfanch I really hope not but I've mostly noticed several tchrs use to support their own learning & prof dev #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMTeacherRadio#edchat Before we had wt boards in our room many were scared to go near them... put them in their rooms and providing multi trainings worked

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08-18-098:20 PMweb20classroomRT @tonnet: Teachers can't deny we have very savvy students from whom we can still learn, specially tricks on technology #edchat

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08-18-098:20 PMweb20classroom@cfanch @mbteach And we have to show them the educational side...#edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMblairteach@BWDay Welcome to #edchat. Many listen to learn then join the conversation.

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08-18-098:21 PMRe_SearchingEd@OnTeaching I use Thinkquest.org and the kids love it #edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMLinda704RT @mbteach: @jkdham an LCD & projector is a start. Then introduce them to Animoto or VoiceThread to show on their screens. #edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMTeacherRadio#edchat Our admin make it a requirement to invite them to one tech lesson in your classroom each 1/2 of school year.

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08-18-098:21 PMtheresagrayI have found teachers are less resistant when tech is the answer to a particular problem - not the answer to everything. #edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMmisrus@iMrsF You're spot on RE: teachers thinking technology is just another passing buzzword #edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMkenroyalRT @ShiftParadigm: @tomwhitby What comes before the bloom? Seed? #edchat

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08-18-098:21 PMmbteach@cfanch just like our kids! They don't see how it's being used professionally. #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMweb20classroomRT @mbteach: @OnTeaching well, if districts wouldn't change everything up every 2 years, maybe tchrs wouldn't fear change! #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMtonnetRT @kenroyal / @ShiftParadigm: @tomwhitby What comes before the bloom? Seed? #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMOnTeaching@Re_SearchingEd But you can use music in LA class. There are ways to incorporate tech in every subject, just have to try #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMiMrsFRT @theresagray: teachers are less resistant when tech is the answer to a particular problem - not the answer to everything. #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMtheresagray@OnTeaching Solitaire! Can't they at least upgrade to Bejewelled? #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMkellyhinesRT @zemote: Tip to all the participents in #edchat use the favorite button to mark stuff you know you want to refer to later.

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08-18-098:22 PMjswiatekRT @Linda704: Holy interactive teachers! #edchat is flying and hard to keep up w/all the great ideas & sharing! that's what I love bout this

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08-18-098:22 PMmbteach@OnTeaching well, if districts wouldn't change everything up every 2 years, maybe tchrs wouldn't fear change! #edchat

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08-18-098:22 PMzemoteTip to all the participents in #edchat use the favorite button to mark stuff you know you want to refer to later.

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08-18-098:22 PMjkdham@mbteach: What's funny about #edchat is we're all preaching 2 choir--how do we draw the 'others' in? #edchat specfic ex of things found here

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08-18-098:22 PMweb20classroom@kmckean1 @OnTeaching Talk to @kellyhines about that...she rocks Edmodo with her kids! #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMmisrus@OnTeaching I agree w/ you, but when planning units, I think naturally about technology, not the tuba. #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMcedpaineRT @theresagray: teachers are less resistant when tech is the answer to a particular problem - not the answer to everything. #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMtonnetTip to all the participents in #edchat use the favorite button to mark stuff you know you want to refer to later. via @zemote

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08-18-098:23 PMblairteach@kmckean1 I'm trying, but they don't seem too hungry. #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMOnTeaching@Re_SearchingEd do a little more work that pulling out last year's file and passing out same old stuff #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMrjwassink@misrus when you figure out how to integrate the tuba please post a vid to youtube? :-) #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMmbteach@esolcourses YES! If teacher's can't control what they're kids are doing, it's the teacher, not the tool! #edchat

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08-18-098:23 PMLinda704@web20classroom You've (along w/many others here) given me some great ideas in #edchat tonight

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08-18-098:23 PMShellTerrellYes! LOL! RT @Twilliamson15: @ShellTerrell are you calling us a virus? :) #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMmarciamarciaRT @web20classroom: I very rarely pass along a resources that cost money.... #edchat <Same for me & #lrnchat crowd. Thx!

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08-18-098:24 PMcfanchRT @mbteach: @esolcourses YES! If teacher's can't control what they're kids are doing, it's the teacher, not the tool! #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMkmckean1Word! RT @theresagray: Teachers are less resistant when tech is the answer to a particular problem - not the answer to everything. #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMmisrus@OnTeaching Which is why a teacher who doesn't regularly use the computer prob won't look into tech when planning #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMtkrazRT @rjwassink: @misrus when you figure out how to integrate the tuba please post a vid to youtube? :-) - No help. It's blocked. #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMmbjorgensenTip for those in edchat via cell phone send 'fav username' to mark a twet for later recall #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMTeacherRadio@web20classroom True!! Not fear it, not avoid it, not revolt against it! #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMLinda704@ShellTerrell How do you know that 60 tchrs are here in #edchat tonight?

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08-18-098:24 PMShellTerrellTrue my sis uses Ipods in PE RT @OnTeaching ... There are ways to incorporate tech in every subject, just have to try #edchat

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08-18-098:24 PMmbteachRT @tomwhitby: Education must be about learning and not control. #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMOnTeaching@misrus But those teachers should find ways to use computers more -- this is part of their job! We need to teach kids how 2 use tech #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMblairteachFor some district, "social network" seems to trigger block. RT @aleaness: @mbteach I don't think all nings are unblocked. #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMiMrsF@theresagray is right because tech isn't the end all. It's still tchng philo and dedication that are key. Tech just makes it easier. #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMesolcourses@pbhanney I know teachers who say they don't like tech, also. Suspect the subtext is they fear tech will create more work for them #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMjaneinjava@web20classroom I would never achieve anything really cool with tech if I wasn't prepared to learn from my students #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMmisrustkraz: RT @rjwassink: when you figure out how to integrate the tuba pls post a vid to youtube? :-) - No help. It's blocked (HAHA!) #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMaforgrave@rjwassink tube/YouTube -- posted yesterday Everyone should watch this! http://bit.ly/7x5jN

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08-18-098:25 PMLinda704RT @mrsbrowndog: #edchat Snds like Fullan #fno09 "it's not about being right; it's about motiviating ppl 2 take on the challenge of change"

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08-18-098:25 PMShellTerrell@Linda704 We had edchat earlier today so I'm counting all day! 80 ppl participated in survey alone #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMweb20classroomI have to run (baby needs a bath). Don't forget to help me out by filling out my form...summarize your thoughts...http://is.gd/2nuoh #edchat

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08-18-098:25 PMblairteach@misrus May be a topic for another day. We vote on the topic for discussion each Sunday/Monday. Watch for notice. #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMLinda704@iMrsF and inexperience #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMblairteach@iMrsF Many ADULTS are also prone to poor choices. Teaching decision-making & critical thinking is vital. #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMmarciamarcia[Who isn't] less resistant when tech is the answer to a particular problem, not the answer to everything. PRT @iMrsF #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMtomwhitbyIf tchrs are engaged in teaching and students are engaged in learning that should give admins time for Tech PD #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMaforgraveSorry! TUBA @rjwassink tubA/YouTube -- posted yesterday Everyone should watch this! http://bit.ly/7x5jN #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMtheresagray@iMrsF And more engaging!! #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMLinda704@teach1st "Love to learn" is the ONLY prereq for participation! ;) #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMmbteach@zemote or check out my post. A section on archiving #edchat toward the bottom: http://philly-teacher.blogspot.com

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08-18-098:26 PMTeacherRadioHave to run... chat later! #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMShellTerrell@misrus you can dm me to suggest topic, already had 2 ppl do this which is gr8 we can put in twtpoll #edchat

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08-18-098:26 PMBWDaySome teachers are resistant to tech, but others want to learn & use it but are frustrated by limited tech in the building #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMtheresagrayAnyone have teacher eval/APPRs that require tech use/integration? #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMpassandr@tomwhitby That's true. However how often do schools run as smoothly as they should run? #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMrjwassinkI haven't had this much twitter fun... ever. Loving my first #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMGetSomeMath@misscalcul8 You can go to this link and see some examples http://bit.ly/13mwu9 .#edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMBWDayMy building had a new wireless internet installed this summer but it doesn't reach my classroom or others farther down hall. #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMfeedtheteacherI couldn't be happier with the use of technology in this situation.#edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMiMrsFRT @wmchamberlain: @stevejmoore but bad teaching+tech can = blocked sites, visiting inappropriate content, and destroyed computers. #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMmbteach@blairteach yes it does. ANYTHING with a networking angle is blocked automatically w/out review of its content. #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMmisrus@OnTeaching I absolutely agree! Just offering up a possible explanation... #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMtheresagrayRT @BWDay: Some teachers are resistant to tech, but others want to learn & use it but frustrated by ltd tech in the building #edchat

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08-18-098:27 PMjkdhamRT @Linda704: @TechnologyToday And if wikis are blocked, too? #edchat in our board, you can talk to IT dept to get specific site unblocked

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08-18-098:27 PMShellTerrellRT @mbteach: @zemote or check out my post. A section on archiving #edchat toward the bottom: http://philly-teacher.blogspot.com

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08-18-098:27 PMcedpaine@esolcourses That's another key problem: too many see technology as "more work." #edchat

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08-18-098:28 PMLinda704@jkdham The 2 friends...2friends & so on" shampoo was Fabrage organics! It was a tall orange bottle #edchat

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08-18-098:28 PMcedpaineRT @iMrsF: @stevejmoore but bad teaching+tech can = blocked sites, visiting inappropriate content, and destroyed computers. #edchat

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08-18-098:28 PMcfanchRT @esolcourses know teachers who say they don't like tech, also. Suspect they fear tech will create more work for them #edchat

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08-18-098:28 PMBWDayI have a plan to compensate for lack of wireless, but might discourage others. #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMOnTeaching@theresagray our wireless was secured, had to have school laptop/code to use it #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMmrsbrowndog@theresagray GREAT question! Those I've seen from our area (WNY), Tech Int is a mere *blip* and not a measureable outcome. You? #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMLinda704@jkdham I've tried that many times w/no success. Need new approach #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMtomwhitby@mrsbrowndog But if feels so good to be right in your challenge to change. #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMmarciamarciaLove to Learn is the ONLY prereq for participation in #edchat (via @Linda704). I moderate #lrnchat & definitely qualify! Good to meet ya'll.

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08-18-098:29 PMOnTeaching@theresagray My old district required one tech lesson a week -- but every stdnt had school-issued laptop, campus has strong wi-fi #edchat

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08-18-098:29 PMtheresagray@BWDay LUCKY! We have been fighting for wireless but someone might hack from the parking lot! #edchat

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08-18-098:30 PMtheresagray@OnTeaching What kind of teacher training before that requirement? #edchat

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08-18-098:30 PMShellTerrell@BWDay Whats the plan? #edchat

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08-18-098:30 PMLinda704@ShellTerrell Wow! no wonder I've had trouble keeping up w/ #edchat!

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08-18-098:30 PMrjwassink@BWDay wow. Wireless networking is so easy to plan for... that's inexcusable. "Do it once, Do it Right" #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMtomwhitbyWhenever my students were engaged in a project that they were interested in,there were no control issues. It was tough to do daily #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMTechWallRT @iMrsF: @stevejmoore but bad teaching+tech can = blocked sites, visiting inappropriate content, and destroyed computers. #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMtheresagray@mrsbrowndog Seen required when it is linked to another initiative (ie TechPaths) #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMzemoteTech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMmbteachAlright everyone, it's been fun. TIme to wind down & do the dinner dishes! Thanks for a great conversation! Tweet ya later! #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMTechWallRT @esolcourses know teachers who say they don't like tech, also. Suspect they fear tech will create more work for them #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMOnTeaching@theresagray TONS. weekly sessions before&after school and during conf periods; required to attend once a six weeks #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMShellTerrell@OnTeaching: @theresagray ours was secured as well I think this is becoming the norm for districts #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMrjwassink@theresagray Wireless security isn't hard to set up. Turn off broadcast, turn on encryption, and only IT knows the password #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMtheresagray@OnTeaching Tried to explain that to IT but there was fear in those eyes for sure! #edchat

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08-18-098:31 PMjkdham#edchat @Linda704 share something that you've found here. when they get all excited about it, tell them how you found it.

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08-18-098:31 PMLinda704RT @kellyhines: #edchat And we need the old-fashioned door-to-door, demo in your house kind of salesmanship. Not a pop up ad on a website.

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08-18-098:32 PMtheresagray@OnTeaching And admin response to those who were resistant? #edchat

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08-18-098:32 PMShellTerrellRT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:32 PMblairteach@iMrsF I think some teachers need STUDENTS to guide and nudge them into learning/trying new technology. #edchat

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08-18-098:32 PMOnTeaching@theresagray given ideas on how to use Google Docs, Reader, Animoto, blogs, everything #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMfeedtheteacherRT @ShellTerrell RT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMtonnetRT @CotterHUE: Real relevant application moves students from rote knowledge to in/flexible knowledge. #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMmarciamarcia@blairteach Seems like a great opportunity for reverse mentoring. #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMblairteach@mbteach RE tchr fear: Heard it, seen it -- no assumptions needed. #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMtheresagray@OnTeaching Actually should have asked - training for admin? #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMLinda704@jkdham Irony...if it's blocked, how can I show them! ;) #edchat

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08-18-098:33 PMOnTeaching@zemote The good teachers will find ways to use tech & will keep learning new tricks #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMLinda704I continue to be amazed at the quality of convo that can be had 140 char/time with quality people! #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMOnTeaching@theresagray Don't know. They wanted to see tech/laptops used in the classroom. Admin was pretty clueless overall, though... #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMjswiatekRT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMRe_SearchingEd@TechWall True- tech is so tricky bc it's so ingrained in some tchrs personal lifestyles n not in others, creating disparate classes #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMiMrsF@blairteach Probably so - that or the techie tchrs. Easier to ascertain value of specific tech if presented by fellow tchr. #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMShellTerrellYes! RT @OnTeaching: @zemote The good teachers will find ways to use tech & will keep learning new tricks #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMcfanch@OnTeaching I think some districts lose tchrs when they require a specific item in a lesson. Encourage+PD to help is better IMHO #edchat

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08-18-098:34 PMOnTeaching@blairteach Teachers need to be more like students. We expect them to try new things, but tchrs are afraid to do the same? Come on! #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMOnTeaching@theresagray Not much. Write-up, I guess? Last yr was 1st yr w/ all stdnts having laptops, so lots of forgiveness b/c it was 1st yr #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMiMrsF@Re_SearchingEd All classes are uneven. Some tchrs are just more passionate abt tchng; or naturally more effective. Can't level. #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMmarciamarciaRT @Linda704I continue to be amazed at the quality of convo that can be had 140 char/time with quality people! #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMShellTerrellSo true! RT @OnTeaching:...Tchrs need to be more like stdts. We expect them to try new things, but tchrs are afraid to do the same? #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMwmchamberlainRT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMtomwhitbySorry folks I have to go. Please make suggestions for next weeks topics. #edchat

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08-18-098:35 PMcedpaine@tomwhitby YES! Engagement is critcal. Good teachers will use appropriate tools, including technology to achieve that. #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMLinda704@kmckean1 What do you mean by "unwanted mentions" in #edchat? the mentions are the dialogue...

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08-18-098:36 PMOnTeaching@tonnet Yes, we should! #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMjkdham@theresagray: I found tchrs are less resistant when tech is answer 2 a particular problem - not the answer 2 everything. #edchat exactly

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08-18-098:36 PMcristama@ShellTerrell Sorry I missed it...what was tonight's topic? #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMmusingvirtualwhat's the difference between #lrnchat and #edchat?

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08-18-098:36 PMtomwhitby@passandr If things always ran smoothly as predicted that would not be life. #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMShellTerrellThanks everyone for participating! You are what makes this grow! Keep chatting if you'd like :-) #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMRe_SearchingEdThey're also the same ones who innovate with their instruction in general, too! @ShellTerrell@OnTeaching:@zemote Re: good teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:36 PMtonnetI am bit tired of hearing "good teachers" do this and that. Shouldn't we say professional teachers in place? #edchat

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08-18-098:37 PMDigin4edI also need to go, gnight all, great session as always. may the force be with you all. #edchat

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08-18-098:37 PMtheresagray@cfanch Perhaps but sometimes a gentle nudge when you have a tipping point is needed, no? #edchat

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08-18-098:37 PMShellTerrellRemember every Tues we have 2 Edchats! For more info watch vid http://teacherbootcamp.edublogs.org/ #edchat

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08-18-098:37 PMiMrsF@tonnet Probably but it's tough to do when working in 140 characters! :) #edchat

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08-18-098:38 PMtomwhitbyI have to go, but look how much you lewaarned tonight through the wonderful, magical world of Technology. Night all #edchat

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08-18-098:38 PMOnTeachingRT: tchrs are less resistant when tech is answr 2 particular prblm, not answr 2 everything. // Tech isn't "answer," it's the means #edchat

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08-18-098:38 PMmarciamarciaIf educators expect students to try new things, how can they be afraid to do the same? inspired by @OnTeaching #edchat #lrnchat

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08-18-098:38 PMShellTerrell@cristama np! Topic: What edtech standards should be included Statewide? #edchat

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08-18-098:38 PMLinda704@OnTeaching We still have teachers who don't check email. #edchat

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08-18-098:38 PMtheresagrayYES! RT @tonnet: I am bit tired of hearing "good teachers" do this and that. Shouldn't we say professional teachers in place? #edchat

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08-18-098:39 PMRe_SearchingEdRT@OnTeaching Tech isn't "answer," it's the means #edchat

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08-18-098:39 PMTwilliamson15#edchat folks, shameless self promotion, my school's 1st Tech in 20 session is Thursday at 9:30 AM (usually 3:20 pm) http://bit.ly/15ef9Z

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08-18-098:39 PMOnTeaching@Linda704 GAARRGGHHH!!!! *sigh* #edchat

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08-18-098:39 PMblairteach@cfanch Read this for an example http://bit.ly/13GziC #edchat

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08-18-098:40 PMjerridkruseIt can be a means to poor teaching too...use wisely RT@OnTeaching Tech isn't "answer," it's the means #edchat (via @Re_SearchingEd)

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08-18-098:40 PMRe_SearchingEd@Linda704 Same here! Even when we created a school listserv to eliminate paper memos, they wouldn't check their e-mails #edchat

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08-18-098:40 PMLinda704@OnTeaching I use edmodo with my district lit team, and hope to get a teacher or 2 hooked this year. (not blocked!) #edchat

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08-18-098:40 PMtkraz@tonnet I think "good teacher" implies innovative in this sense. I can be professional without being innovative. #edchat

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08-18-098:40 PMmarciamarcia@musingvirtual #lrnchat is primarily between workplace educators, #edchat between school teachers. All good. So much to learn together.

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08-18-098:40 PMtomwhitbylewaarned=learned #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMkmckean1@rjwassink Yes, I've been getting adult msgs....never got them b4 I participated in this #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMLinda704@TeacherRadio Multi-trainings (and just-in-time-support) is key. One-shot "sit & git" doesn't cut it. #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMjkdhamRT @ShellTerrell: RT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMcfanchRT @ShellTerrell: Remember every Tues we have 2 Edchats! For more info watch vid http://teacherbootcamp.edublogs.org/ #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMShellTerrellYou can vote for topic every Mon just keep eye on hashtag to find poll! I will take options for topics now. #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMesolcoursesRT@ShellTerrell RT @OnTeaching:Tchrs need 2 be more like stdts. We expect thm to try new things, bt tchrs are afraid to do the same? #edchat

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08-18-098:41 PMcfanch@theresagray my problem is sometimes my 20 years in miltary over rides my "gentle nudge" desires..#edchat

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08-18-098:42 PMfeedtheteacherRT @ShellTerrell You can vote for topic every Mon just keep eye on hashtag to find poll! I will take options for topics now. #edchat

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08-18-098:42 PMcfanch@Linda704 aint that the truth! #edchat

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08-18-098:42 PMtheresagray@cfanch Dad was an MP! I understand military nudges! LOL #edchat

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08-18-098:43 PMcfanch@blairteach thank you I'll get to it tonight. #edchat

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08-18-098:43 PMLinda704@kmckean1 I was getting those before #edchat. that is sad, yes.

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08-18-098:43 PMTwilliamson15@kmckean1 @rjwassink those started for me today too...prior to #edchat however...more annoying than spam followers

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08-18-098:43 PMblairteachSo sad. Have to sign off. Thanks for the great conversation; plenty to think about; lots to do. #edchat

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08-18-098:43 PMtheresagray@tkraz Does an innovative teacher always equal a good teacher? #edchat

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08-18-098:44 PMblairteach@theresagray No, an innovative teachers does NOT always equal a good teacher. #edchat

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08-18-098:44 PMjkdham#edchat @kellyhines: @mattscully LOVE Phineas and Ferb! Now how can we integrate that into our lessons. they use tons of tech!

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08-18-098:44 PMLinda704@Re_SearchingEd While sad, good to know email resistance not isolated. #edchat

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08-18-098:44 PMmarciamarciaNot just tchrs> RT @iMrsF Many tchrs view tech as superfluous-just another cheesy buzzword. They will soon find how wrong they are. #edchat

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08-18-098:44 PMtheresagrayHOLLA! RT @Linda704: @TeacherRadio Multi-trainings (and just-in-time-support) is key. One-shot "sit & git" doesn't cut it. #edchat

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08-18-098:45 PMtkraz@theresagray Good point! If innovative means tech savvy but not pedagogically sound, then no. Quit making me think this late! :) #edchat

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08-18-098:45 PMtheresagray@jkdham And Phineas and Ferb use tons of creativity too - another important skill! #edchat

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08-18-098:45 PMkmckean1#edchat Signing off, too. Nice to meet all of you.

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08-18-098:45 PMrjwassinkThanks, #edchat ters. Had a great time. Will need to set aside 90 minutes for this every Tuesday from now on...

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08-18-098:45 PMcfanchRT @Twilliamson15: #edchat folks, shameless self promotion, my school's 1st Tech in 20 session is Thursday at 9:30 AM http://bit.ly/15ef9Z

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08-18-098:45 PMdaylynnRT @zemote: Tech is needed, but educ fails w/o good/great teachers #edchat --- True! Ineffective ones use tech to do same thing, only faster

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08-18-098:46 PMShellTerrell@BWDay Group work on computers teachers kiddos to share at young age! #edchat

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08-18-098:46 PMLinda704I'm getting exhausted trying to keep up w/ #edchat stream!

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08-18-098:46 PMblairteachAMEN RT @jkdham: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:47 PMtheresagray@tkraz Sorry - been searching for a better term than "good" myself. Easier with group think! #edchat

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08-18-098:47 PMtkrazTons of literary references in The Simpsons.

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08-18-098:47 PMtonnetRT @blairteach / @jkdham / @ShellTerrell / @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:48 PMLinda704@marciamarcia My pleasure! ;) #edchat

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08-18-098:48 PMcfanch@theresagray A good teacher will find ways to reach all students. A great teacher is an innovative good teacher. #edchat

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08-18-098:48 PMrroysdenRT @tonnet: RT @blairteach / @jkdham / @ShellTerrell / @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-098:49 PMLinda704Bingo! RT @theresagray: I have found tchrs less resistant when tech is the ans to a partic prob-not the answer to everything. #edchat

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08-18-098:49 PMShellTerrellMust go as well! Thanks for all your ideas! #edchat

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08-18-098:49 PMBWDayAnd some of them know more than I do about tech so they will be great teachers. #edchat

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08-18-098:50 PMtonnetre: good teachers @OnTeaching @iMrsF @theresagray @tkraz @megormi Thx4 responses and support #edchat

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08-18-098:50 PMesolcourses@kmckean1 Am getting spam DM's also, from people I know wouldn't send them.Looks like we have another Twitter issue, folks... #edchat

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08-18-098:50 PMtheresagrayRT @cfanch: @theresagray A good teacher will find ways to reach all students. A great teacher is an innovative good teacher. #edchat

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08-18-098:51 PMmrsbrowndog#edchat Measurable tcher use: RT @theresagray Seen required when it's linked 2 another initiative ( TechPaths) Other FORMAL APPRs UR using?

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08-18-098:51 PMtheresagray@cfanch I am going to start with this definition! Innovation doesn't mean just tech... #edchat

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08-18-098:52 PMzemote@BWDay i know lots about tech, i don't think I would be a great teacher though. #edchat my wife however is a great teacher and applaud her

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08-18-098:52 PMtomkrieglsteinWith current budgets, why do schools keep using Blackboard instead of Moodle? Ridiculous! RT @k_shelton #edchat

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08-18-098:52 PMdatadiva@theresagray & a great teacher uses evidence of student learning to shape who/what to reach. Might we even call that *gasp* data? #edchat

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08-18-098:52 PMLinda704RT @BWDay: Some teachers are resistant to tech, but others want to learn & use it but are frustrated by limited tech in the building #edchat

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08-18-098:52 PMjswiatekFor an archive of this afternoon's #edchat session, check out the following link: http://bit.ly/OCRWl. Tonight's #edchat to come soon.

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08-18-098:54 PMLinda704@OnTeaching Same here. COWs are wireless and only those laptops can connect. #edchat

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08-18-098:55 PMtheresagray@zemote You might change your mind if you saw what makes a "good" teacher - not a certification alone! IMHO at least #edchat

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08-18-098:55 PMjswiatek@tomkrieglstein Why do schools continue to use MS Office? With all of the open source and free web app choices, there's no reason. #edchat

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08-18-098:55 PMtkraz@theresagray You're right. There are "successful" businesspersons and "highly regarded" doctors. We need a better teacher adjective! #edchat

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08-18-098:57 PMjkdhamRT @theresagray: & Phineas and Ferb use tons of creativity too - another important skill! #edchat we should design some lessons around them

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08-18-098:57 PMLinda704AMEN! RT @tonnet: I am bit tired of hearing "good teachers" do this and that. Shouldn't we say professional teachers in place? #edchat

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08-18-098:58 PMcfanch@datadiva nice job. Hadn't seen Data Driven Decision Making yet tonight. (our school is all about that stuff) #edchat

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08-18-098:58 PMjkdham#edchat @rdelorenzo we've been having a great discussion about tech integration and objectives

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08-18-098:58 PMcedpaine@jswiatek Main reason: Office is more "ituitive." (Translation: I already know how to use it) #edchat

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08-18-098:59 PMtheresagray@cfanch She ain't called DataDiva for nothin! #edchat

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08-18-098:59 PMtkrazI know tech but have lousy handwriting. Am I lucky to have made it this long in teaching? #edchat

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08-18-099:00 PMacprattwoops! i meant #teachertuesday and #edchat. There is no u!

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08-18-099:00 PMzemoteRT @theresagray: @cfanch I am going to start with this definition! Innovation doesn't mean just tech... #edchat

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08-18-099:00 PMcfanch@jswiatek I think IT people aren't smart enough to ask for comps that don't come loaded with MS. They have to educate Admin #edchat

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08-18-099:00 PMShellTerrellThanks to @jswiatek for his continual archiving of #edchat events! Must add him to your #teachertuesday follow list!

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08-18-099:01 PMtheresagrayOK so what adjective should we use to describe good/great/successful/innovative/motivating/tech using teachers? #edchat

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08-18-099:01 PMrdelorenzo#edchat, #educhat, now I'm all confused!

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08-18-099:02 PMtkrazInnovative teachers find a way. Whether it be with the old, the new, or the not even known. #edchat

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08-18-099:02 PMtomkrieglsteinWith current budgets, why do schools keep using MS Office vs Free Google Apps or Zoho? #edchat RT @jswiatek

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08-18-099:02 PMLinda704RT @cedpaine: @jswiatek Main reason: Office is more "ituitive." (Translation: I already know how to use it) #edchat

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08-18-099:03 PMevelynsaenzRT @ShellTerrell: RT @zemote: Tech is needed, but education fails without good/great teachers #edchat

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08-18-099:03 PMcedpaine@theresagray Inpsired? #edchat

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08-18-099:03 PMtheresagray@jswiatek Local district tried to go open source with no notice or training for teachers. Nightmare! IT needs to think training! #edchat

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08-18-099:03 PMrdelorenzo@cfanch You're assuming IT departments are well versed in anything other than the main software packages - many are not #edchat

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08-18-099:04 PMtkraz@cedpaine Inspirational #edchat

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08-18-099:04 PMrdelorenzo@tomkrieglstein Its a matter of control. Much more difficult to own or control the content when it's on Google or Zoho. #edchat

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08-18-099:05 PMcfanch@theresagray I'd start with immaginative and maybe throw in a pinch of fearless. #edchat

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08-18-099:05 PMtomkrieglstein@rjwassink then I'll ask, w/current budgets, why to conpanies keep using MS products vs free Google Apps or Zoho? #edchat

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08-18-099:05 PMcedpaine@tkraz YES! Inspirational is better. #edchat

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08-18-099:06 PMcfanch@rdelorenzo I didn't say it well. I WAS trying to say that. You are correct. #edchat

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08-18-099:06 PMCotterHUERT@Mtranslator Thanks to @jswiatek for his continual archiving of #edchat events! Must add him to your #teachertuesday follow list! -- Done!

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08-18-099:06 PMmrsbrowndog@theresagray #edchat ? edtechchatters?

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08-18-099:06 PMtheresagray@tomkrieglstein Honestly - I think the same reasons district do - fear, lack of understanding, lack of innovation. #edchat

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08-18-099:06 PMrdelorenzoAdequate training and then adequate expectations with regular follow-up are needed for any successful implementation #edchat

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08-18-099:07 PMLinda704@rdelorenzo Add just-in-time support. It's gotta work when the teacher wants/needs it or it will be abandoned. #edchat

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08-18-099:07 PMtomkrieglstein@all Ok taking off. Great #edchat tonight!

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08-18-099:08 PMtheresagrayAm really liking the "I" words used to describe quality teachers - makes you proud to say "I am a teacher!" #edchat

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08-18-099:08 PMLinda704Gonna be *really* hard to tweet & watch America's Got Talent! #edchat

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08-18-099:09 PMtheresagrayRT @rdelorenzo: Adequate training & then adequate expectations with regular follow-up needed for any successful implementation #edchat

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08-18-099:10 PMcedpaine@rdelorenzo I really dislike the whole concept of 'training,' especially for professionals who need to be lifelong learners. #edchat

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08-18-099:10 PMrdelorenzo@cfanch True. I know some that are trying to use Google Apps. It gives more mamagement power but control always rests with Google #edchat

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08-18-099:10 PMcfanchoff to get my regularly scheduled work done. Night #edchat ters.

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08-18-099:11 PMtheresagray@cedpaine We call them professional learning opportunities. Goal is differentiated, capacity building PD. #edchat

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08-18-099:11 PMjkdham@rdelorenzo: Adequate training & then adequate expectations with regular follow-up needed for any successful implementation #edchat

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08-18-099:11 PMrdelorenzo@Linda704 There needs to me leadership and direction as well. A teacher who wouldn't otherwise use tech needs that nudge. #edchat

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08-18-099:12 PMrdelorenzo@cedpaine "Professional Development" then. Just as PD is provided for new Numeracy or literay initiatives, it's needed for tech too #edchat

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08-18-099:12 PMtheresagray@cedpaine Problem is many still want to sit and get. #edchat

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08-18-099:12 PMLinda704@rdelorenzo Absolutely! Admin must "encourage" when necessary. #edchat

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08-18-099:12 PMweb20classroomEven if you didn't participate in the #edchat tonight I would still like to know what you think about objectives-http://is.gd/2nuoh

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08-18-099:13 PMLinda704@cedpaine I dont' think "training" and "learning" are mutually exclusive. #edchat

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08-18-099:14 PMtheresagray@rdelorenzo Tech is literacy and numeracy! #edchat

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08-18-099:14 PMrdelorenzo@Linda704 Agreed #edchat

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08-18-099:14 PMrdelorenzoWho makes the Academic ICT decisions in your organizations? Is it the curriculum leaders or the IT departments? #edchat

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08-18-099:15 PMrdelorenzo@theresagray Maybe I should have saud that more tech needs to be included in subject specific PD #edchat

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08-18-099:15 PMrdelorenzo@theresagray I agree with you but how much new technology is discussed/incorporated in literacy/numeracy initiatives #edchat

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08-18-099:15 PMcedpaineRT @theresagray: @cedpaine Problem is many still want to sit and get. #edchat Training is passive. Learning is active.

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08-18-099:16 PMtheresagray@rdelorenzo AMEN to that! #edchat

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08-18-099:16 PMtheresagray@Linda704 We use training when it is about a tool or strategy - facilitating when it is about application. All under PLO umbrella. #edchat

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08-18-099:17 PMLinda704@theresagray That's kinda how I'm seeing it too. :) #edchat

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08-18-099:18 PMljhardin@rdelorenzo Too many times the IT people make curriculum decisions with no understanding of the instructional impact. #edchat

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08-18-099:19 PMjkdham@rdelorenzo: Just as PD is provided for new Num. or lit. initiatives, it's needed for tech too #edchat but they should be intertwined

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08-18-099:19 PMsooziq@ljhardin wow hit the nail on the head #edchat

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08-18-099:20 PMmtechmansetting up tweet grid #edchat

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08-18-099:20 PMrdelorenzo@ljhardin It's all about maintaining the "integrity of the network" - of course that's important but it should be #2 not #1 #edchat

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08-18-099:21 PMmtechmanalso, tech refreshers needed every year - things change - like welcome back to school, here is how we....... #edchat

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08-18-099:21 PMtheresagray@ljhardin Why don't the two groups communicate more? Aren't we all working for the same goals? I find IT looking at other factors... #edchat

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08-18-099:22 PMcedpaineThe Illiterates of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read or write but those who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn-Toffler #edchat

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08-18-099:22 PMLinda704RT @mtechman: also, tech refreshers needed every year - things change - like welcome back to school, here is how we....... #edchat

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08-18-099:22 PMcedpaine@jkdham And that brings us back to Toffler (next tweet) #edchat

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08-18-099:23 PMJustlikemary@ShellTerrell thx for the RT's! It was my second #edchat. Very imformative.

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08-18-099:24 PMmtechmanIs #edchat over?

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08-18-099:25 PMmtechmanspeaking tech : ) Now that I'm sadder but wiser - can anyone recommend good site/blog re organizing/backing up? #edchat

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08-18-099:25 PMcedpaineI'm out! Thanks everyone! #edchat

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08-18-099:25 PMtheresagrayRT@cedpaineThe Illiterates of the 21st c will not be those who cannot read or write but those who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn #edchat

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08-18-099:25 PMrdelorenzo@ljhardin ...we refuse to teach tech in isolation? #edchat

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08-18-099:25 PMweb20classroom@mtechman It's winding down for this evening...but an archive will be available soon... #edchat

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08-18-099:25 PMrdelorenzo@ljhardin and this brings us back to tech training. Who do we incorporate tech if the subjects specialists lack the background and #edchat

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08-18-099:26 PMakgardenerFear? RT @web20classroom: Why do districts block more than what is required by CIPA? Is it because of the students or the teachers? #edchat

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08-18-099:26 PMmtechman@web20classroom thanks - what time does it usually start? #edchat

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08-18-099:27 PMweb20classroom@akgardener Fear from what or of what? #edchat

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08-18-099:27 PMweb20classroom@mtechman 7pm EST... #edchat

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08-18-099:27 PMclassroom_tech@mtechman check out squarespace if you're looking to try something different #edchat

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08-18-099:28 PMtheresagray@rdelorenzo That is the vision of our team - we are trying to be subject specialists who integrate tech and data to model #edchat

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08-18-099:29 PMtheresagrayWOW! Later than I thought - nice to meet you all and thanks for the things to think about! Until next week! #edchat

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08-18-099:29 PMrdelorenzo@aforgrave Really? I'm attending the second day of the admin PD tomorrow. I'll see what I can do. #edchat